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TM99

(8,352 posts)
104. Legally speaking
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 11:14 AM
Oct 2015

Roe v Wade came down to privacy rights.

I may agree with both the legal argument and the inherent right of women to choose.

But the arguments concerning the overturning of Roe v. Wade (which are not sound) are to take abortion as one thing out of that context and use it to beat either side with it as a political tool.

That I disagree with.

Does that make more sense when worded like that?

Well, what did YOU think it would accomplish, BooScout? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #1
At the time.... BooScout Oct 2015 #2
Right. And you were angry because... Why? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #6
Looking back.... BooScout Oct 2015 #9
new Republican President enid602 Oct 2015 #74
If you perceive someone as a Wall St shill FreakinDJ Oct 2015 #3
If you perceive someone as a Wall St shill The CCC Oct 2015 #15
You can still vote and have bitching rights. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #64
You know, the last time my state voted for a Democratic ticket Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #145
Good advice for millions of mellinials FreakinDJ Oct 2015 #73
Stupidity there geek75 Oct 2015 #41
I'm not the one pretending it isn't true FreakinDJ Oct 2015 #76
There are two factions currently vying for power TM99 Oct 2015 #4
Yep. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #8
That is your choice. TM99 Oct 2015 #26
what rights will you be wiling to give up that you are dsc Oct 2015 #20
The fear of losing abortion rights TM99 Oct 2015 #25
spoken as a male dsc Oct 2015 #28
Although I am firmly pro-choice thesquanderer Oct 2015 #46
I think he should give up what those he thinks should be wiling to give up dsc Oct 2015 #51
You know nothing of my past TM99 Oct 2015 #55
you have yet to state what rights you would be willing to give up dsc Oct 2015 #57
This is nonsense. TM99 Oct 2015 #63
Abortion is a right.... BooScout Oct 2015 #100
Legally speaking TM99 Oct 2015 #104
Sort of.....but.... BooScout Oct 2015 #114
Another poster shared in this thread TM99 Oct 2015 #121
I saw that.... BooScout Oct 2015 #126
I tend to agree with it TM99 Oct 2015 #132
I'm going to repeat to you something the dean of the law school at my undergraduate Alma Mater said. Chan790 Oct 2015 #65
really dsc Oct 2015 #72
When Dubya Bush was in the White House and the Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress . . . Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #142
Exactly. +1 n/t Chan790 Oct 2015 #143
^^^^^^^^^ + 1,000 ^^^^^^^^ Indepatriot Oct 2015 #36
I am Gen-X as well. TM99 Oct 2015 #59
Nicely stated. edgineered Oct 2015 #47
Not giving in to blackmail. I don't begrudge those who choose to give in. It's their vote. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #5
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #27
What blackmail geek75 Oct 2015 #43
Try rereading your first sentence. jeff47 Oct 2015 #79
Then go ahead allow in Trump geek75 Oct 2015 #95
And yet more blackmail. jeff47 Oct 2015 #96
It is telling that you should need to point that out. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #149
Nope. Tired of voting against. 840high Oct 2015 #152
Thank you. +10 840high Oct 2015 #151
Not voting achieves nothing. Talking about not voting... joshcryer Oct 2015 #7
"Who else are those f*cking retards going to vote for" depressed turn-out. Betty Karlson Oct 2015 #10
Progressive voters turn out. joshcryer Oct 2015 #37
Usually people who vote green or other artislife Oct 2015 #110
This is true. joshcryer Oct 2015 #144
All the major dems are now for gay rights geek75 Oct 2015 #44
Are they? pinebox Oct 2015 #106
Jury results Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #147
Who says they won't vote for the nominee? Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #11
Post 12 and 14 rpannier Oct 2015 #18
I've seen well over twenty people make the claim. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #22
I Will Vote For The Candidate Of My Choosing Via Write-In Ballot If Necessary - That Is My Right cantbeserious Oct 2015 #12
Ditto. SoapBox Oct 2015 #39
I'll take the DNC over the RNC geek75 Oct 2015 #45
^^^^^this^^^^^ nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #48
If you think that is the only thing that is accomplished by the election of a republican onenote Oct 2015 #60
Allow everyone to vote as they please in the elections. edgineered Oct 2015 #148
Yes!!!! 840high Oct 2015 #153
What will not voting for Sanders accomplish? Broward Oct 2015 #13
The exact same result as not voting for HRC or O'Malley ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #34
^^^^THIS^^^^ joshdawg Oct 2015 #50
This is simply not true: Fawke Em Oct 2015 #113
Yeah, well, just look what happened in the mid-terms. joshdawg Oct 2015 #150
But what if it actually wouldn''t lead to that result? thesquanderer Oct 2015 #56
Which district is solidly Blue enough where we (Democrats) can afford your strategy? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #99
I would suggest looking at the most current polling before anyone did this. thesquanderer Oct 2015 #108
Voting for someone who has a plan vs captain obvious sound bites? tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #58
I despise blackmail, loyalty oaths and those who promote them Android3.14 Oct 2015 #14
BINGO!...sort of BrainDrain Oct 2015 #19
I despise blackmail, loyalty oaths and those who promote them The CCC Oct 2015 #21
Wrong! TM99 Oct 2015 #29
Depressing the vote is the Republican's key strategy. joshcryer Oct 2015 #38
You are right geek75 Oct 2015 #49
Then the Dems need to support a candidate that excites the voters (Hint - It isn't Hillary) Android3.14 Oct 2015 #52
That is what primaries are for. joshcryer Oct 2015 #77
I sure hope so. This primary season has been such a corporate cluster fuck Android3.14 Oct 2015 #91
And the disaffected "send a message" left can succeed where the gop's ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #102
Exactly; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #101
...^ that 840high Oct 2015 #154
It is a game to some... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #16
You mean the Republicans, right? You sure as hell aren't describing Bernie supporters. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #94
I agree that those who believe they are so pure that they will be sitting out the election.... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #124
My Purity Will Be Intact rpannier Oct 2015 #17
There is nothing to accomplish by voting FOR the Dem nominee, IF ... Martin Eden Oct 2015 #23
How would a Clinton presidency delay change? onenote Oct 2015 #67
By keeping the neoliberals in power within the party. jeff47 Oct 2015 #84
jeff47 provided the answer Martin Eden Oct 2015 #107
The entire situation we are in is the result of people not voting... randr Oct 2015 #24
Yup and we can start reversing it geek75 Oct 2015 #53
I contend the people saying this are voting - just not for the Fawke Em Oct 2015 #70
Then perhaps our party should do something different to attract voters jeff47 Oct 2015 #85
Who said that? nt LWolf Oct 2015 #30
Sound and Fury signifying Nothing Jan Bunson Oct 2015 #31
my primary vote is for Bernie FreedomRain Oct 2015 #32
I'm not sure who I will vote for yet Loki Oct 2015 #33
I will vote for my candidate in the primary and vote against the GOP in the general. Vinca Oct 2015 #35
It'll teach those meanie Democrats a lesson. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #40
Don't expect to accomplish anything other then keeping my integrity intact. bowens43 Oct 2015 #42
Groovy for your integrity onenote Oct 2015 #68
My vote won't make the slightest different on those issues... Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #105
So you really hope most people don't feel like you do. onenote Oct 2015 #115
I doubt I need to hope that, regardless. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #131
A serious answer to your question thesquanderer Oct 2015 #54
if you're right and a Democrat can win without the votes of Sanders' supporters onenote Oct 2015 #62
Because it's only true in some states. (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2015 #80
So basically you are saying you hope most voters don't think or act like you do onenote Oct 2015 #92
Please don't put words in my mouth. thesquanderer Oct 2015 #97
In some states it really doesn't matter!! Fawke Em Oct 2015 #61
Then why ever vote in those states? onenote Oct 2015 #69
Down ticket races and kvetching rights. eom Fawke Em Oct 2015 #71
Also, if you strongly support a candidate... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #86
there have been so many good reasons given by others restorefreedom Oct 2015 #66
Hopefully make the party realize "who else you gonna vote for?" is a terrible strategy. jeff47 Oct 2015 #75
Maybe Nader will get in the race redstateblues Oct 2015 #89
I apologize that reality does not conform to your political views. jeff47 Oct 2015 #93
Yet in the end, you really don't want a republican to get elected and would prefer a Clinton win onenote Oct 2015 #118
I get no say in the matter. jeff47 Oct 2015 #120
So your answer is yes, you'd prefer Clinton to a repub. onenote Oct 2015 #127
No, it's prefer to an insane Republican, and "won't matter" versus a moderate Republican. jeff47 Oct 2015 #128
Right Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #122
Here is the theory HassleCat Oct 2015 #78
What does promising to vote for any nominee even one that is compromised achieve? CBGLuthier Oct 2015 #81
People who don't vote are selfish. Their "principles" are more important than other people's lives. seaglass Oct 2015 #82
I can compromise, but capitulation is more difficult Boomer Oct 2015 #83
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz doesn't control my vote davidn3600 Oct 2015 #87
It's your vote. If you're not going to use it for yourself, why waste it? randome Oct 2015 #88
I always vote artislife Oct 2015 #90
very nicely said edgineered Oct 2015 #146
I will keep my dignity. YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #98
I'll tell you why pinebox Oct 2015 #103
It does seem the the Democratic Party needs artislife Oct 2015 #111
I think the point here is that once we get to the general election onenote Oct 2015 #117
One in the same pinebox Oct 2015 #119
I guess you're one of those that doesn't see any difference between onenote Oct 2015 #125
Nope i'm one of these pinebox Oct 2015 #134
My member of Congress was not among the 89 who voted for that cut onenote Oct 2015 #135
However many Dems were pinebox Oct 2015 #136
"There's not much chance a radical RW judge would get through Congress" onenote Oct 2015 #137
Look pinebox Oct 2015 #138
My candidate is Bernie Sanders onenote Oct 2015 #140
Clinton, 2008 concession speech Tarc Oct 2015 #109
My sentiments as well.... BooScout Oct 2015 #116
Accomplish? About the same thing I would "accomplish" by voting for the label. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #112
Total control of the federal government.... workinclasszero Oct 2015 #123
What has holding our nose and voting for the less crappy candidate accomplished? 99Forever Oct 2015 #129
Constitutionality of same sex marriage. Health care reform (even if flawed). onenote Oct 2015 #133
Not supporting the Democratic nominee only helps the GOP Gothmog Oct 2015 #130
I don't believe that. 840high Oct 2015 #155
People who make these types of threats … NurseJackie Oct 2015 #139
IF Hillary is elected... Ino Oct 2015 #141
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