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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
51. It can never hurt you as much as it hurts them. Realize that.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:20 AM
Oct 2015

You cannot compete with black women in the oppression olympics without looking terrible if you are basing it off of the adversity of someone not you. Not only do we have black children, we have black husbands and mothers and fathers and cousins and uncles and our OWN PERSONAL experience to use as fount of knowlegde. Lacking that, one lacks the experience in dealing with the day to day minutia of being marginalized in every facet of ones life.

None of 'you white folks' know internally what it is like to live in black skin with the history of our nation diplayed in ways that are horrifying that white folks just cannot notice and do not internalize or process in the same way.

Barring actual experience, the correct thing to do is to defer to those with experience in dealing with ths horrible affliction on what it is really like. Attempting to instruct the recipients of racism on how much you know, or trying to prove you know as much as they is a shallow and completely false reading of the situation, our society and our culture. You cannot know what you do not know and you will not learn if you think you already know.

If you understand, I'd suggest dropping the abrasiveness and demanding that strong black women leave 'your' thread and insulting them with terms like 'race baiter'. I tend to place those who find themselves completely comfortable with addressing black women as race baiters for discussing the pressing and deadly issue of racism as far far far to the right of me on the racial and social justice scale. I understand that I am much farther to the Left of you on this issue, but the terms you used in referring to me at one time were only used by rightwingers but have somehow since summer found itself comfortably nestled in the american progressive lexicon. This is a sad thing. I think you'd be horrified if when discussing palestinian liberation I said to you 'get out of here, you are the worst race baiter ever'. Strange to see white progressives call blak women race baiters for discussing issues of black lives mattering. Very sad.

I'd like to know ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #1
Maybe Hillary should do the same. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #4
Perhaps; but, you asked what we would like to know from the Bernie campaign ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #6
The Syria question is fair enough. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #7
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #8
I'm a Southerner. I'm white, but the first boy Fawke Em Oct 2015 #12
Another southerner here and none of the blacks I know are saying those things either. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #19
it makes me sort of laugh at how each side cries out about toxic supporters roguevalley Oct 2015 #26
DU seems to be some odd assortment of political wonks. Not your usual run of the mill Hiraeth Oct 2015 #29
HA, thats doubtful..... R B Garr Oct 2015 #33
What attack? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #43
Are we too uppity for you? Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #13
No ... too dismissive. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #14
Dismissive is hardly the word. Angry? Instigating? Fired up? Yes. Dismissive? No. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #15
Okay ... I'm going to disengage now because you are about to type something ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #22
What the hell was that!?!? bravenak Oct 2015 #23
Baiting! And an example of exactly, what I was talking about. ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #30
Very BOLD!! bravenak Oct 2015 #32
Almost as bold as the unalerted on/undisturbing to DU post 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #35
Better love them. bravenak Oct 2015 #42
Get off my thread. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #44
Worse than Stockholm Syndrome? Race Nagging? Harassing black folks all over the internet? bravenak Oct 2015 #45
Try being the parent of a Palestinian. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #46
Try being black yourself instead of describing the adversity of others... bravenak Oct 2015 #47
Do you not know that a loving parent feels Fawke Em Oct 2015 #49
It can never hurt you as much as it hurts them. Realize that. bravenak Oct 2015 #51
I could read that screed, but Fawke Em Oct 2015 #53
How do you embrace those telling you you are not wanted even postingon a thread? bravenak Oct 2015 #56
That comment is incredibly offensive BainsBane Oct 2015 #50
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #54
You can't expect that of a candidate. joshcryer Oct 2015 #48
Bernie may be doing well in the real world, but Hillary's doing well in land-line polls!!! reformist2 Oct 2015 #2
LOL. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #5
You don't actually have to have your own line for that. jeff47 Oct 2015 #9
It's OK. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #11
That's a great article. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #3
I have a question, related to Hillary's funding base of primarily BIG donors 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #10
What are considered "big" donors? The limit is the same for both candidates. George II Oct 2015 #18
This. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #55
That's the job of the campaign. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #24
Of course it's the job of the campaign, that's who this question is being directed to 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #57
Advise him to get off of Denmark and European socialism and revert to F.D.R. and Johnson's Medicare. Hoppy Oct 2015 #16
Thom Hartmann agrees with this. I agree with him. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #27
Agree with this. This election is about Americans and we really need to drive home single payer Hiraeth Oct 2015 #28
Denmark is a country of about 6 million people, the US is a country of close to 330 million. George II Oct 2015 #34
- Hiraeth Oct 2015 #41
I could not agree more! CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #38
I agree with this one. -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #58
suggest registering voters at his rallies. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #17
That's what campaigns do, but from what we've seen there hasn't been any of that going on.... George II Oct 2015 #20
and I just bet you get an eyeful. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #21
I wish I knew what you were talking about, but........ George II Oct 2015 #31
you don't know because you are not listening Hiraeth Oct 2015 #36
I thought we were talking about seeing, not you're on listening? George II Oct 2015 #37
silly ... boy ... Hiraeth Oct 2015 #40
I've never heard of a campaign that doesn't register voters BainsBane Oct 2015 #25
He did in Seattle. nt artislife Oct 2015 #52
I'm from Iowa too... CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #39
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