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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #49)

Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:20 AM

51. It can never hurt you as much as it hurts them. Realize that.

 

You cannot compete with black women in the oppression olympics without looking terrible if you are basing it off of the adversity of someone not you. Not only do we have black children, we have black husbands and mothers and fathers and cousins and uncles and our OWN PERSONAL experience to use as fount of knowlegde. Lacking that, one lacks the experience in dealing with the day to day minutia of being marginalized in every facet of ones life.

None of 'you white folks' know internally what it is like to live in black skin with the history of our nation diplayed in ways that are horrifying that white folks just cannot notice and do not internalize or process in the same way.

Barring actual experience, the correct thing to do is to defer to those with experience in dealing with ths horrible affliction on what it is really like. Attempting to instruct the recipients of racism on how much you know, or trying to prove you know as much as they is a shallow and completely false reading of the situation, our society and our culture. You cannot know what you do not know and you will not learn if you think you already know.

If you understand, I'd suggest dropping the abrasiveness and demanding that strong black women leave 'your' thread and insulting them with terms like 'race baiter'. I tend to place those who find themselves completely comfortable with addressing black women as race baiters for discussing the pressing and deadly issue of racism as far far far to the right of me on the racial and social justice scale. I understand that I am much farther to the Left of you on this issue, but the terms you used in referring to me at one time were only used by rightwingers but have somehow since summer found itself comfortably nestled in the american progressive lexicon. This is a sad thing. I think you'd be horrified if when discussing palestinian liberation I said to you 'get out of here, you are the worst race baiter ever'. Strange to see white progressives call blak women race baiters for discussing issues of black lives mattering. Very sad.

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