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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: There is no such thing as a Third Way Progressive. [View all]ieoeja
(9,748 posts)42. Blue Dog Democrats.
Who were pretty much brought to us by the same people who brought us the Third Way even though the two have opposition positions. But they know that social issues won't play in Peoria, so they're willing to sacrifice economic issues to get a win there.
Third Way may technically be progressive on social issues, but they also advocate triangulation on the issue and slowing down social progress. They have to. They lost too many Democratic voters when they embraced rightwing economics. To temper that loss they recommend we support social progress "quietly".
Bernie says, "I support a woman's right to an abortion. Period."
Hillary says, "I think abortion should be safe, legal and rare."
That last is straight out of the Third Way handbook. They recommend that you never, ever say you support legalized abortion without also adding that you are anti-abortion.
So the Third Way has absolutely no problem with Blue Dogs on social issues. Helps keep things quiet. Not too keen on them economically, but a win for the Party is a win.
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Such posters are pro Hillary and there is no amount of facts we can present to change their minds.
JRLeft
Oct 2015
#3
They're trying everything possible to make their Third Way selves look better
in_cog_ni_to
Oct 2015
#2
I presented such poster of the thread with facts and the poster said I don't believe that.
JRLeft
Oct 2015
#6
Facts don't deter those who are trying desperately to protect and defend the indefensible.
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#13
Serious people don't make things up then run with them as if they were facts
AgingAmerican
Oct 2015
#61
She'll be a moderate republican like the rest of the Wall Street side of the party.
JRLeft
Oct 2015
#10
Not Third Way. The Third Way is a group of investors and ex-Clinton administration
JRLeft
Oct 2015
#20
So, since you are married to the Think Tank's existence and not the ideology ...
1StrongBlackMan
Oct 2015
#51
If you can indulge in word games to paint allies as enemies, you are not seeking allies and you do
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2015
#26
I agree. I would caution all Bernie supporters to be careful. The ones that come over here
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#109
Do your homework, learn your timelines. You will find that DLC/Third Way 'supported LGBT rights'
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2015
#62
And how exactly would improving everyone's economic situation hurt social justice?
Armstead
Oct 2015
#49
When have blacks gotten an equal share of the pie, comparable to their population?
bravenak
Oct 2015
#56
This is why I call it third way progressivism. Equality must not be discussed. Equality for me is
bravenak
Oct 2015
#73
What makes you think I don't work? My color or what? Hell, just having two kids is work!
bravenak
Oct 2015
#114
You think taking power from the oligarchy, and giving it back to the people somehow victimizes you?
AgingAmerican
Oct 2015
#68
I am receiving proper education. I try to educate those who have no experience being the slave class
bravenak
Oct 2015
#74
Stockholm Syndrome, Race Nagger, Race Baiter (only towards blacks and their defenders)
bravenak
Oct 2015
#90
I notice you blame this on poisoning but gloss over the attitude of his base.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#119
Any thread that boils down, at it's core, to "DU talking about DU" is politically useless to me.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2015
#58
They are a big lie, they are libertarian. Call them out and run from them and yes I believe Hillary
Todays_Illusion
Oct 2015
#100