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riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
71. I don't post or visit any of the protected groups
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

if their discussion can't occur in the "public square", then I'm not really interested in an echo chamber.

I've read the arguments that social justice trumps economic justice and I'm unconvinced. I've listened to their complaints about Sanders or Clinton and can form my own opinions. If DU's AA's aren't willing to air their arguments without "protection" then they have some fatal flaws in my mind.

I'm bi-racial fyi (AA/white).

Well, in theory there could be a progressive who only cares about economics jfern Oct 2015 #1
Such posters are pro Hillary and there is no amount of facts we can present to change their minds. JRLeft Oct 2015 #3
Don't forget, Bernie also has a 100% rating from the NAACP Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #8
They're trying everything possible to make their Third Way selves look better in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #2
I presented such poster of the thread with facts and the poster said I don't believe that. JRLeft Oct 2015 #6
Just a bit of advice - in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #11
I put no one on ignore, hifiguy Oct 2015 #39
I have no one on ignore either. As another Duer put it - in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #44
Facts don't deter those who are trying desperately to protect and defend the indefensible. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #13
It's a complete joke and ridiculous post made by someone who isn't serious. JRLeft Oct 2015 #14
Yep. It's ridiculously obvious. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Oct 2015 #15
Actually I think she and her supporters are 100% serious nt riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #48
Serious people don't make things up then run with them as if they were facts AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #61
Oh it's toxic all right. riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #63
I never saw anyone except Sanders supporters BainsBane Oct 2015 #96
Said with entirely no sense of irony. BainsBane Oct 2015 #92
Yes. bravenak Oct 2015 #95
Agreed wholeheartedly! Fearless Oct 2015 #4
When they claim that they are Progressives, I dub them Potemkin Progressives Larkspur Oct 2015 #5
Or move to the right of the tea party. JRLeft Oct 2015 #7
Then she'll be Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #9
She'll be a moderate republican like the rest of the Wall Street side of the party. JRLeft Oct 2015 #10
Yep. With a considerably higher level of neo-con hifiguy Oct 2015 #37
Aka - Neolibs. Nothing "progressive" about them. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #12
Well maybe progressive like a progressive slot machine. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Oct 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #17
It's spin nonsense AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #18
Then what would you call someone progressive on economics Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #19
Not Third Way. The Third Way is a group of investors and ex-Clinton administration JRLeft Oct 2015 #20
I see you couldn't answer the question. leftofcool Oct 2015 #21
No it's a think tank, Wall Streeters who've taken control of the party. JRLeft Oct 2015 #29
So, since you are married to the Think Tank's existence and not the ideology ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #51
If they are supporting a democrat..... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #23
Blue Dog Democrats. ieoeja Oct 2015 #42
You are arguing a distinction without a difference emulatorloo Oct 2015 #57
Although it would make life easier, people do not fit into templates Armstead Oct 2015 #50
Bleeding Heart Conservatives? Deny and Shred Oct 2015 #91
The Pope, Democrats who voted prop 8 in California, Bart Stupak? TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #121
Phrase doesn't seem to be ridiculous if you can define it so easily. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #22
If you can indulge in word games to paint allies as enemies, you are not seeking allies and you do Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #26
Very well said, thanks for posting this n/t emulatorloo Oct 2015 #54
No ... it's DU definition is clear ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #53
Wrong. Third Way is a political philosophy at least a century old wyldwolf Oct 2015 #24
Not so sure about that. hifiguy Oct 2015 #36
I'm 100% sure about it. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #40
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #25
Just a new meme pushed by Hillary supporters Broward Oct 2015 #27
Bwahahahahaha Renew Deal Oct 2015 #28
Who is the conservative?? riversedge Oct 2015 #78
It's more nuanced than that historically and today. But.... Armstead Oct 2015 #30
The essence of Third Way is a fatally flawed attempt hifiguy Oct 2015 #35
That's not what sparked this discussion Armstead Oct 2015 #45
The Hillionaires have come up with hifiguy Oct 2015 #47
"basically a creative new way to bash Sanders supporters" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #66
I agree. I would caution all Bernie supporters to be careful. The ones that come over here liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #109
Oh I have no doubt that's the case. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #112
Do your homework, learn your timelines. You will find that DLC/Third Way 'supported LGBT rights' Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #62
Hence my use of the word "grudging" hifiguy Oct 2015 #67
Yeah, that one had me -- Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #31
K&R! nt Zorra Oct 2015 #32
Third Way progressive = someone who only cares about progress if it is... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #33
True. It is a perfectly cancelling oxymoron hifiguy Oct 2015 #34
No, there isn't. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #38
But, if you keep the signifiing jargon of group names a muddle HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #41
This dismissive thread Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #43
A good demonstration of Skidmore Oct 2015 #46
And how exactly would improving everyone's economic situation hurt social justice? Armstead Oct 2015 #49
Because it would improve yours more than mine giving you extra power over me. bravenak Oct 2015 #52
That makes no sense Armstead Oct 2015 #55
When have blacks gotten an equal share of the pie, comparable to their population? bravenak Oct 2015 #56
Sorry I'm not going to enter this topsy turvy universe Armstead Oct 2015 #59
Here is a tip: Try the AA Group for more information. leftofcool Oct 2015 #64
I don't post or visit any of the protected groups riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #71
This is why I call it third way progressivism. Equality must not be discussed. Equality for me is bravenak Oct 2015 #73
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #111
What makes you think I don't work? My color or what? Hell, just having two kids is work! bravenak Oct 2015 #114
You think taking power from the oligarchy, and giving it back to the people somehow victimizes you? AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #68
That, AA, is the kind of "logic" that was on display hifiguy Oct 2015 #70
I am receiving proper education. I try to educate those who have no experience being the slave class bravenak Oct 2015 #74
Your entire post is about economic slavery riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #81
And cultural slavery. Same victims. bravenak Oct 2015 #83
Uhm, word salad? Care to expand on that? riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #88
I am discussing american history and culture not world culture. bravenak Oct 2015 #94
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #97
You are being very rude and condescending. bravenak Oct 2015 #98
YOU brought up "slave class". riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #102
You are still being very rude bravenak Oct 2015 #103
Sorry you're so fragile on an anonymous msg board riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #104
That was also rude. You know nothing about my experiences. bravenak Oct 2015 #105
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #108
You are being rude. bravenak Oct 2015 #113
Not any more, at least in this thread. William769 Oct 2015 #116
Thank you. bravenak Oct 2015 #117
You're reminding me of an image that got some head-nods around here. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #79
Not any. You saw me write the one who focus solely on economics!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #84
I think that's a straw man, though. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #86
Prioritize to the point of making excuses for straight up racism. bravenak Oct 2015 #87
Such as? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #89
Stockholm Syndrome, Race Nagger, Race Baiter (only towards blacks and their defenders) bravenak Oct 2015 #90
Ah, see, I thought we were talking about policy positions Scootaloo Oct 2015 #99
He cannot organize his people. The atmosphere is bad. bravenak Oct 2015 #101
Really, Bravenak? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #107
Obama did it. bravenak Oct 2015 #115
Johnathon Swift had a relevant quote... Scootaloo Oct 2015 #118
I notice you blame this on poisoning but gloss over the attitude of his base. bravenak Oct 2015 #119
Not at all, bravenak. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #120
May I suggest that you go over to the AA group Skidmore Oct 2015 #60
Been there. Armstead Oct 2015 #65
I'll give you the same answer I gave leftofcool upthread riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #72
No one said that social justice isn't worth fighting for jfern Oct 2015 #85
Oh, lordy lu..... hifiguy Oct 2015 #69
Exhibit A Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #75
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #77
Goodness Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #80
That pretty much sums up BainsBane Oct 2015 #93
Any thread that boils down, at it's core, to "DU talking about DU" is politically useless to me. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #58
Just saying is all portlander23 Oct 2015 #76
Thank you. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #82
They are a big lie, they are libertarian. Call them out and run from them and yes I believe Hillary Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #100
Man, it sucks when the little people don't sit back and take it BainsBane Oct 2015 #106
They're really not "socially progressive," but I"m going to... SMC22307 Oct 2015 #110
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