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Agschmid

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53. And what exactly was he waiting for?

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Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:41 AM

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Neither Bill Nor Hillary Supported Marriage Equality in the 1990's. [View all] Fearless Oct 2015 OP

None of our candidates explicitly supported marriage in that decade. Agschmid Oct 2015 #1

Bernie supported us in everything we fought for in the 1990's. And the 1980's... 70's... 60's...etc Fearless Oct 2015 #6

I expected this article to pop up, didn't expect it from you. Agschmid Oct 2015 #11

Again, he supported EVERYTHING WE FOUGHT FOR in those years. Fearless Oct 2015 #15

Ha well I guess some of us were fighting for marriage a bit longer the some? Agschmid Oct 2015 #20

You're making things up. Fearless Oct 2015 #27

I'm absolutely not. Agschmid Oct 2015 #37

No, he did not. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #23

Again, he supported EVERYTHIGN WE FOUGHT FOR in those years. Fearless Oct 2015 #28

He never opposed SSM though jfern Oct 2015 #48

All our candidates evolved on this issue. Agschmid Oct 2015 #50

It's a lie that he was a SSM opponent in 2006 jfern Oct 2015 #52

And what exactly was he waiting for? Agschmid Oct 2015 #53

There were lots of politicians who hadn't bothered to formally take a position on SSM jfern Oct 2015 #55

Oh so he was so for it, that he forgot to mention it. Got it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #56

If you made the claim that he opposed it you have to back it up. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #57

It's not my job to do anything... Agschmid Oct 2015 #58

Got it! You made the claim that he opposed same sex marriage and can't back it up. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #64

I backed it up just fine. Agschmid Oct 2015 #66

Where? I must have missed it. Did you read the transcript? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #69

I did. And's its odd, I don't see the word marriage equality anywhere. Agschmid Oct 2015 #70

What's even more weird is that he never said he opposed it. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #71

Usually leaders lead. n/t Agschmid Oct 2015 #72

So you just *know*. Have you always been omniscient? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #73

The other night it seemed as if you were done with me? Agschmid Oct 2015 #74

No, I challenge lies about Bernie when I can. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #75

Oh boy... Agschmid Oct 2015 #76

I'm agreeing with you about Hillary. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #77

I know, thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #78

There were lots of other politicians who hadn't taken a position jfern Oct 2015 #59

Yes, and I fault them for that as well. Agschmid Oct 2015 #60

My point is that it's a lie that Bernie oopossed SSM in 2006 jfern Oct 2015 #61

It's not a lie. Agschmid Oct 2015 #63

It is a lie. Where did he say he opposed it?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #65

He didn't have to say he was in favor to not oppose SSM jfern Oct 2015 #67

Look so if Sanders is such a strong leader why didn't he lead? Agschmid Oct 2015 #68

That's a different question, but he saying he opposed SSM in 2006 because of that debate is bogus jfern Oct 2015 #79

Very true, we can choose to move on to the future or remain in the past, I like today much better. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #8

Yup. Agschmid Oct 2015 #13

Know who else changed since the 90's? Elizabeth Warren. "Evolving" is not a bad word, if context Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #2

Change the subject much? Fearless Oct 2015 #3

Same subject, better perspective. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #4

Different subject. And you're still wrong. Fearless Oct 2015 #7

But the Clintons fought marriage equality only in order to MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #5

You must really hate Obama. nt LexVegas Oct 2015 #9

I vehemently disagree with his "personal evolution" on LGBT rights. Yes. Emphatically. Fearless Oct 2015 #10

I salute your consistency. nt LexVegas Oct 2015 #16

Grow up firebrand80 Oct 2015 #12

Wow! Just wow! Fearless Oct 2015 #19

"Politicians sometimes take positions based on the prevailing winds. " tblue Oct 2015 #30

Then you're likely to always be "holding your nose" firebrand80 Oct 2015 #31

She's a flip flopper! pinebox Oct 2015 #14

On this issues they have all evolved. Agschmid Oct 2015 #22

One of Sanders greates legislative accomplishments was.... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #17

Thanks for the history lesson. onehandle Oct 2015 #18

One thing that makes me happy is the LGBT vote is far from monolithic LettuceSea Oct 2015 #21

Worthless revision of history on HRC's part angrychair Oct 2015 #24

In the 1990's I didn't support marriage equality. I do now and Arkansas Granny Oct 2015 #25

You were not in a position of power in the 1990's. What you believed doesn't impact this nation. Fearless Oct 2015 #29

And what Hillary believes now will have more impact on the nation Arkansas Granny Oct 2015 #32

You're missing the point of the OP. Fearless Oct 2015 #33

The point of the OP, as I read it, is that 25 years ago Arkansas Granny Oct 2015 #36

A position of power in this nation is attained by treestar Oct 2015 #35

In the face of partisan districting, I disagree fundamentally. Fearless Oct 2015 #44

That was very dismissive. Agschmid Oct 2015 #42

False logic. It was off topic. Fearless Oct 2015 #45

It was about marriage equality... Agschmid Oct 2015 #46

It was not about the Clintons or DOMA. Fearless Oct 2015 #47

Just a reminder... Agschmid Oct 2015 #49

If you bother to read the post, you'll see what the main idea is. Fearless Oct 2015 #51

Nah, thanks though. Agschmid Oct 2015 #54

I appreciate you sharing that. Agschmid Oct 2015 #43

Neither did I. I am an old geezer and grew up in an age that was much different than todays's in justhanginon Oct 2015 #26

Puts finger out UglyGreed Oct 2015 #34

memory lane Truprogressive85 Oct 2015 #38

Unfortunately, politicians are followers more than leaders. polichick Oct 2015 #39

Gay Activists Unhappy with Clinton remarks on DOMA Laughing Mirror Oct 2015 #40

Neither did President Obama... brooklynite Oct 2015 #41

well...in the 90's Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #62

I will say that I was disappointed in Clinton's description of what happened around the time of DOMA BlueCheese Oct 2015 #80