2016 Postmortem

Fairgo

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14. Thank you for the cogent argument

Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:23 AM

Oct 2015

These are wicked system issues that require deep policy solutions. It's past time to get deadly serious about global solutions...or wait for the cascade of collapsing systems. The problem will resolve without us, eventually.

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Let's Be Clear. Hillary Does Support Monsanto & GMO's [View all] tecelote Oct 2015 OP

I support GMOs wyldwolf Oct 2015 #1

Can we at least have GMO labeling? reformist2 Oct 2015 #4

In Vermont DianeK Oct 2015 #70

There's no science-based reason to label a seed development technology. HuckleB Nov 2015 #94

There's a people-based reason - we want to know! In Europe they do it, why not here? reformist2 Nov 2015 #99

"We want to know" is not a justification for mandatory labels. HuckleB Nov 2015 #101

I want to know if my food has been touched by angels. progressoid Nov 2015 #116

Labeling is one issue - but why not label? tecelote Oct 2015 #5

Obama supported labeling before he didn't nationalize the fed Oct 2015 #83

Labeling a food by the seed development technology makes no sense. HuckleB Nov 2015 #90

I'm largely pro-GMO but I don't think there's a legitimate reason to block labelling Recursion Nov 2015 #107

When you can convince organic food companies to label mutation bred plants as MBOs... HuckleB Nov 2015 #112

I'm amazed that we actually have people here against labeling - speechless, really. reformist2 Nov 2015 #127

I do get the argument: it's like requiring hydric acid to be labeled in food. Recursion Nov 2015 #129

Perhaps it's because the pro-label movement is really just a marketing campaign for other companies. HuckleB Nov 2015 #132

This doesn't bother you? tecelote Oct 2015 #7

Herbicides are not GMOs. Adrahil Oct 2015 #20

Herbicides are paired with HMOs RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #24

Then oppose glyphosate! Adrahil Oct 2015 #25

No it is not. RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #28

You didn't limit your opposition to just those GMO's. Adrahil Oct 2015 #58

Okay, then tell me some GMOs that are RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #68

Cheese, Papaya, Squash, Potatoes with less acrylamide... HuckleB Nov 2015 #87

Okay, if cheese is a GMO, RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #89

You Can Thank Genetic Engineering For Your Delicious Cheese HuckleB Nov 2015 #91

What utter nonsense Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #115

How is reality nonsense? HuckleB Nov 2015 #120

Insulin is genetically modified progressoid Nov 2015 #118

I make my own, thank you. n/t RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #124

So what? HuckleB Nov 2015 #133

Interesting analogy A Little Weird Oct 2015 #30

Maybe it's more like the Ford Pinto ToxMarz Oct 2015 #40

Then criticize those specific GMOs. Adrahil Oct 2015 #60

Then there are no advantages to the class of "Roundup Ready" GMO Crops. The Traveler Oct 2015 #35

Roundup is less toxic and more effective than many of the herbicides it displaced. Nailzberg Nov 2015 #88

Roundup is killing bees RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #92

Roundup is killing bees AlbertCat Nov 2015 #102

Don't bring reality to the discussion. HuckleB Nov 2015 #93

Herbicides are used on organic and non-GMO foods too. progressoid Nov 2015 #117

Not around here! n/t RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #125

Maybe not in Brooklyn, but... progressoid Nov 2015 #130

Roundup is also used on non-gmo crops. progressoid Nov 2015 #119

You don't seem to understand... RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #126

I do understand. progressoid Nov 2015 #131

Uh ... yer kinda right and wrong The Traveler Oct 2015 #34

My point is this.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #61

+1 stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #11

I support GMOs AlbertCat Nov 2015 #100

Agree totally. Great OP, thank you for posting this! peacebird Oct 2015 #2

There's a lot more to GMOs than just the Round Up issue 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #3

Yes. There are a lot of poisons being used. tecelote Oct 2015 #6

"GMO's increase pesticide use" 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #8

Regardless of whether there are some positive aspects to GMO foods or not, Maedhros Oct 2015 #77

How about you deal with pesticides then? nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #21

In my opinion the Round Up issue is the biggest problem with GMOs A Little Weird Oct 2015 #27

There are no terminator seeds on the market. HuckleB Nov 2015 #98

Then they were removed from the market A Little Weird Nov 2015 #104

They were never on the market. HuckleB Nov 2015 #105

Seed saving does happen A Little Weird Nov 2015 #108

You can do what you want to do. HuckleB Nov 2015 #111

Well gee, thanks for giving me permission A Little Weird Nov 2015 #113

I previously showed that you had posted misinformation. HuckleB Nov 2015 #114

There has been no spate of suicides progressoid Nov 2015 #122

Yes I saw the post where the suicide story was debunked n/t A Little Weird Nov 2015 #123

Hillary believes in science. leftofcool Oct 2015 #9

And profits too. tecelote Oct 2015 #10

I believe in profits wyldwolf Oct 2015 #13

Try feeding her money Fairgo Oct 2015 #15

Econ 101 wyldwolf Oct 2015 #18

World History 708 Fairgo Oct 2015 #19

When the soil is too polluted RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #29

Until that "science" cuts into the bottom line of her benefactors, Multinational Corporations. 99Forever Oct 2015 #17

I'd venture a guess pinebox Oct 2015 #52

I dare you artislife Oct 2015 #82

science and stuff. stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #12

Thank you for the cogent argument Fairgo Oct 2015 #14

Good. Tired of the anti-science nonsense. Adrahil Oct 2015 #16

Roundup has nothing to do with GMOs. Deadshot Oct 2015 #22

GMO's use increased amounts of pesticides and they are killing more than pests... tecelote Oct 2015 #23

Your source is from a conspiracy theory website. Deadshot Oct 2015 #80

Biotech Crops Use Less Pesticide: Study Rebuts Perennial Anti-GMO Lies progressoid Nov 2015 #121

Roundup has EVERYTHING to do with GMOs. Real Science. Not pseudo-science by Monsanto Propaganists. Lean Oct 2015 #32

I see a LOT of bullshit claims Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #50

And I See a Mouthpiece for Monsanto Lean Oct 2015 #71

Yup. If you don't have reason, facts, or science on your side... Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #74

Exactly. Deadshot Oct 2015 #81

No links to support your claims. Deadshot Oct 2015 #79

I support unencumbered by patent GMOs. joshcryer Oct 2015 #26

Agree 100% tecelote Oct 2015 #33

So does Neil Degrasse Tyson rpannier Oct 2015 #31

Umm. HuckleB Nov 2015 #103

Science over Fear! Gamecock Lefty Oct 2015 #36

The biggest fallacy about GMOs is that we need them to feed the world: WFP tecelote Oct 2015 #38

Science over fear tecelote Oct 2015 #39

It's happening pinebox Oct 2015 #53

Why not? RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #69

Indeed. HuckleB Nov 2015 #96

i figured out an easy way to keep track of hillarys positions restorefreedom Oct 2015 #37

I had read that Hillary sits on the Monsanto BOD. randr Oct 2015 #41

Not hard to find at all, I should think DFW Oct 2015 #44

Thanks for clearing that up randr Oct 2015 #55

Yes, Hillary did NOT sit on Monsanto's Board of Directors Maedhros Oct 2015 #78

Factually incorrect claim. Agschmid Nov 2015 #95

I'm no fan of Monsanto. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #42

I never said I was against GMO's - I stated that Hillary supports them tecelote Oct 2015 #45

I never said you were against them. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #49

So does the scientific community. Gore1FL Oct 2015 #43

Ding! DING! DING! EXACTLY! You win the thread. HuckleB Nov 2015 #86

K & R. Very well done, appreciate the resources. appalachiablue Oct 2015 #46

So do I. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #47

I believe Hillary deserves a pass on this. Her position has obviously "evolved" on this Victor_c3 Oct 2015 #48

I am sensing a pattern on DU. Science being denied in food production and in polling...coincidence? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #51

What science is being denied here? tecelote Oct 2015 #57

I am not an expert.....but some are...see post # 54. There is a place for GMO's, under regulation, Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #62

The biggest fallacy about GMOs is that we need them to feed the world: WFP tecelote Oct 2015 #64

So does Neil DeGrasse Tyson Skinner Oct 2015 #54

There's nothing wrong with the science. I agree. tecelote Oct 2015 #59

Mr. Tyson Lean Oct 2015 #72

Lobbyists for Monsanto, ExxonMobil Raise Money for Hillary Clinton pinebox Oct 2015 #56

Dow & Monsanto have also given million$ to the Clinton Foundation, acc to their records. RiverLover Oct 2015 #63

True pinebox Oct 2015 #65

Its more important than anything else. RiverLover Oct 2015 #66

DU attacks on Clinton and the Clinton Foundation are likely to be repeated by the GOP come May. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #67

Ha! No need to worry about this. Republicans agree with her. tecelote Oct 2015 #75

Her allegiances are transparent and obvious to critical thinkers. nt Zorra Oct 2015 #73

+1000000000 azmom Oct 2015 #85

I am heartbroken that she supports these things. Last election glinda Oct 2015 #76

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #84

Interesting twists here on the GOP anti-science message to support the Corporate Oligarchs Armstead Nov 2015 #97

There is an ethical conclusion involved - The Precautionary Principle' kristopher Nov 2015 #109

The war against genetically modified organisms is full of fearmongering, errors, and fraud. HuckleB Nov 2015 #106

there is some guilt by association here olddots Nov 2015 #110

Let me just say... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #128