2016 Postmortem

tecelote

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33. Tell me about it.

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:33 PM

Oct 2015

I thought Hillary was accepting donations from the private prison industry. I was unaware of Bernie's involvement.

I agree, this is another big issue. The prison industry and the war on drugs have ruined so many lives.

Educate me on Bernie vs Hillary here.

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Hillary supporters, how can you justify this? [View all] tecelote Oct 2015 OP

War is only bad when Republicans are in the White House.[n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #1

Bernie just said NOTHING AllTooEasy Oct 2015 #27

Well, I expect Bernie would not go on television and gloat "We came, we saw, he died." Maedhros Oct 2015 #32

lol, no comparison. Bernie is the real deal! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #52

Absolutely - he is a gentle man. 840high Oct 2015 #79

"how little he/she is willing to give up to avoid war"? You must agree fighting the Iraq war cost us grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #42

Absolutely! tecelote Oct 2015 #49

There are often options between diplomacy and war. RichVRichV Oct 2015 #67

I keep waiting for Clinton to make a speech like this. mhatrw Oct 2015 #83

I believe it's wrong to conflate the positions dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #90

Projection? It certainly not based on fact. nt artislife Oct 2015 #99

War is good when either party is in. Think of the dividends on the MIC stock. Think of LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #29

War certainly does pay high dividends. tecelote Oct 2015 #105

Yes, that is the sad fact we have learned siince Bush left the WH. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #107

OK, #mistakesweremade MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #2

LOL!!! Fawke Em Oct 2015 #34

... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #45

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Oct 2015 #3

Greatest Page for this important story. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2015 #4

If moral superiority is what you are looking for... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #5

You got me there. There is a lot I like about Martin. tecelote Oct 2015 #13

I think the democrats have an amazing field. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #20

This is one of the things I am worried about... ion_theory Oct 2015 #61

That's why I'm voting for a diplomat. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #6

Oh, hello, there. MineralMan Oct 2015 #9

His policy on drones: Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #108

Diplomat? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #35

Funny, that. bvf Oct 2015 #39

The "diplomat" that voted to... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #48

Was she being "diplomatic" when she stabbed her Party in the back and switched sides to help rhett o rick Oct 2015 #104

I couldn't sleep... bvar22 Oct 2015 #7

Didn't Bernie say he supports keeping troops in Afghanistan? nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #8

Why, yes, he did, along with drones and MineralMan Oct 2015 #10

Bernie differentiates between wars of defense, wars to end ethnic cleansing JDPriestly Oct 2015 #51

"Keeping drones as an option" = "continuing the exact same policy" to dishonest people n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #55

People killed under a Skidmore Oct 2015 #72

Interesting question mcar Oct 2015 #88

Crickets sheshe2 Oct 2015 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #100

No one expects a perfect candidate. We're mostly just looking for one that looks out for our RichVRichV Oct 2015 #59

Bernie would only use drones for good redstateblues Oct 2015 #103

LOL!! Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #106

A President in defense of our country goes to war upaloopa Oct 2015 #11

So, the beat goes on. tecelote Oct 2015 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #21

I didn't realize Libya and Syria were attacking us. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #74

You have a very little window of knowledge upaloopa Oct 2015 #75

And were you defending your country? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #77

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #14

How can you justify giving control of SCOTUS to the GOP for a generation? Gothmog Oct 2015 #15

A. Don't give me a corporate warmonger in the general, but if you do, then Fawke Em Oct 2015 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #16

I just wanted you to know, someone read your well articulated response Sheepshank Oct 2015 #22

Thank you, Mister. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #24

Here you go passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #30

I do appreciate your well thought out response. tecelote Oct 2015 #31

His plan is to make the Sauds and the locals fight the fight that is in their own backyard. Sound OK grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #71

One could say the same thing about our current plan - "degrade and defeat ISIS", a plan that is not grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #93

Well said n/t Spazito Oct 2015 #73

JUSTIFY WHAT? BootinUp Oct 2015 #17

Being a hawk. tecelote Oct 2015 #23

In my opinion BootinUp Oct 2015 #26

There's gonna be a revolution, yeah you know, we all want to change the unequal systems to Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #18

Justify what? Being a diplomat? leftofcool Oct 2015 #19

No. tecelote Oct 2015 #25

She's about as diplomatic as Netanyahu. eom Fawke Em Oct 2015 #38

Surely not Hillary. 840high Oct 2015 #81

How can Bernie supporters justify him voting for Mass Incarceration? bravenak Oct 2015 #28

Tell me about it. tecelote Oct 2015 #33

They both are terrible on it. Both made bad choices for expediency's sake. bravenak Oct 2015 #41

I like O'Malley. tecelote Oct 2015 #43

I do not think there will be any major shift in support without a major event. bravenak Oct 2015 #46

That does worry me. Bernie is building such energy though. tecelote Oct 2015 #56

I think it is the way the system is set up. bravenak Oct 2015 #58

Bernie Sanders is not a pacifist. He said so himself. PBass Oct 2015 #36

Yes. He's not perfect. tecelote Oct 2015 #40

I am not a pacifist, but these wars are stupid. grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #44

Well, you must have missed her standout performance at the Benghazi hearings. Broward Oct 2015 #50

Why do Hillary supporters have to justify this? Gman Oct 2015 #53

Because Bernie is losing and his supporters are running out of things to.... Walk away Oct 2015 #85

He has voted for military action more than once. As far as the dipomatic solutions he voted against Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #54

I think you're confused. RichVRichV Oct 2015 #78

Wilfully and intentionally confused though rather than actually befuddled. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #87

Bernie Sanders is the same person who has been a member of Congress since 1991. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #95

Where did that come from? RichVRichV Oct 2015 #97

I don't really think that I have to justify anything BlueMTexpat Oct 2015 #57

IWR, no biggie. Let bygones be bygones. Broward Oct 2015 #60

She was hardly the only Dem BlueMTexpat Oct 2015 #62

As stated in post #40, "he's not perfect", dont expect Hillary to be perfect either. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #96

She's come a long way? Maedhros Oct 2015 #89

anti Hillary screed ??????????????????????? olddots Oct 2015 #92

I don't have to justify shit to you. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #63

You just justified shit to me. tecelote Oct 2015 #65

How does Sanders justify his votes in favor of funding wars? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #64

Look to post #59 tecelote Oct 2015 #68

So jobs in Vermont is his justification? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #70

You act like politicians don't partake in pork. RichVRichV Oct 2015 #80

Every war we engaged in since WWII was a "war of aggression." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #101

Then why did Sanders' repeatedly vote to fund the war, including support.... George II Oct 2015 #66

Look to post #59 tecelote Oct 2015 #69

Got it. Sanders is being hypocritical. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #102

Obama says he would have voted against the war and yet he voted for funding. Do you think that Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #82

Irrelevant - this is about Clinton and Sanders. Post a new OP about Obama if you want. George II Oct 2015 #86

Because, well, uhm, seem, that is... LOOK! WHITE DUDES WEARING FEDORAS! Scootaloo Oct 2015 #76

A question for those who blame Hillary okasha Oct 2015 #91

If Sanders doesn't pull out all foreign troops on day one... brooklynite Oct 2015 #98