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cprise

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46. In the 90s they repeatedly and explicity sold themselves as a "team",
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:04 AM
Oct 2015

"two for the price of one".

Elizabeth Warren: "You could hear skidmarks in the halls when she got back (to the White House)" after Hillary changed her mind.

Hillary is also known to have, among other things, urged Bill to push through welfare-to-work.

Of course, healthcare was her marquee humanitarian cause; Very high profile.

She is widely known to have had a kind of veto power on the cabinet. Anyone she did not like had to go.

Politically they have always been a team at least until 2000. But you know, the amnesia and denial is always a sweet touch to these conversations.


"wasn't a law" - talk about pedantic.

I agree!!! Stop the bull. bravenak Oct 2015 #1
I mean, tell the truth Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #2
Not that hard to me. Just explain it and say she was wrong. bravenak Oct 2015 #3
Hey, I have no problem with that. I remember when she supported DOMA. She was wrong. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #80
Exactly. bravenak Oct 2015 #81
I remember the vote and everything surrounding it marym625 Oct 2015 #4
If you are to be fair, you should ask people to read THIS as well: MADem Oct 2015 #5
Here's the problem Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #6
You might want to examine post 7 before you toss out the L word like that. MADem Oct 2015 #14
Bill Clinton won by over 8% over Bob Dole, and given the presence of Ross Perot as spoiler LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #9
And the polls showed Bill up more than that jfern Oct 2015 #10
Looks like he took a dip. LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #12
Clinton received 66% of the LGB vote in '96 Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #16
Exactly. nt LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #26
Not true. Bob Dole was the FIRST CO-SPONSOR of the bill. MADem Oct 2015 #11
Probably fired up some Southern homophobes Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #13
I have never denied that he took a bad situation that he was crammed into, and made hay with it. MADem Oct 2015 #19
You are the one rewriting history LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #15
You wrongly assume that everything would have remained static had he vetoed that bill. MADem Oct 2015 #20
Why? Because Clinton's top adviser, Dick Morris said he had to go totally 3rd way jfern Oct 2015 #23
Dick "Toe Sucker" Morris? You do realize that he is a bloated wastrel with absolutely zero MADem Oct 2015 #25
He was Bill Clinton's top political adviser for most of 1996 jfern Oct 2015 #27
DOMA was voted in by people who hated it, because they were reflecting political reality at the time MADem Oct 2015 #33
Voting no on DOMA didn't mean you supported SSM jfern Oct 2015 #35
That is also true. Sanders, for example, stated that his objections had to do with the MADem Oct 2015 #39
Here are some things said by the Democrats who voted NO on DOMA, said in the Congress: Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #57
Senator Robb , son in law of the man who signed the civil rights acts JI7 Oct 2015 #84
Then provide proof LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #24
That's just nonsense. You're acting--again--as though everything is static and not dynamic. MADem Oct 2015 #30
I thought DADT was the most retarded thing at the time in 1993 jfern Oct 2015 #31
I hated DADT for a very different reason. MADem Oct 2015 #34
And you are acting as if you could actually know how things would have went down LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #37
There's no need to be snarky and rude, with your "Crystal Ball" comments. MADem Oct 2015 #41
You didn't provide facts to Clinton losing, you provided opinions and are treating them as facts. LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #43
Given that it is impossible to 'prove' a negative, I guess you think you've made your point. MADem Oct 2015 #75
He did not shut that conversation down, he delayed it until he was safely out of office, amendment Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #58
I know, right? Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #59
How do you change your font and type color? Do you type it elsewhere and copy paste it or randys1 Oct 2015 #76
I use Cascading style sheet tags LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #78
This is what copying and pasting the post will look like LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #79
A couple more useful links LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #82
Thanks, looks like a lot of work, but it is easier to read, for sure. randys1 Oct 2015 #83
Bookmarking this for when I need a splash of color in my post. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #85
He could have let it pass without signing, wanted a popularity boost instead. n/t cprise Oct 2015 #18
No, he could not have. At least read the links before you comment. MADem Oct 2015 #22
I suppose DADT *and* the post-election homophobe piety were also cprise Oct 2015 #32
The Poles? What do they have to do with this? MADem Oct 2015 #36
Election polls. DADT wasn't linked to them. cprise Oct 2015 #40
Unnnh...DADT happened YEARS earlier. Your facts are out of order. MADem Oct 2015 #42
Which undermines YOUR case cprise Oct 2015 #44
That makes no sense, either. It's just not accurate. "The Clintons?" Good grief. They aren't MADem Oct 2015 #45
In the 90s they repeatedly and explicity sold themselves as a "team", cprise Oct 2015 #46
It's not PEDANTIC to note that a military instruction is not a law. That's something called a FACT. MADem Oct 2015 #47
Oh "instruction not law", Pu-pu-pidoop! cprise Oct 2015 #64
You have travelled a long way from the thread topic in order to deliver a MADem Oct 2015 #72
I really hate to defend the Clintons. But a lot of DUers are completely back asswards on DADT. ieoeja Oct 2015 #73
Until what year did Clinton defend DOMA? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #54
Amicus brief from Senators Bill Bradley, Tom Daschle and Chris Dodd, Alan Simpson BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #7
And they failed. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #8
2013 amicus brief from people that were part of the 1996 doma debate should know BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #17
Easy to do an amicus brief to CYA Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #21
Exactly. And I made my post before I read yours. merrily Oct 2015 #29
That's my take on it as well. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #48
A cover story is not necessarily reality. merrily Oct 2015 #28
Daschle and Co. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #65
Family Values, Dick Morris, Triangulation, School Uniforms, VChips, Armstead Oct 2015 #38
By far the most right-wing campaign a Democrat ran since at least 1924 jfern Oct 2015 #77
funny.... every single LGTB person I know Florencenj2point0 Oct 2015 #49
Not the ones I know! merrily Oct 2015 #51
Meet my gay housekeeper -- he hates Hillary Hepburn Oct 2015 #56
I'm gay and I know one gay Hillary supporter. The rest are for Bernie, one or two with great Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #60
Hillary just needs to stop. Period. bigwillq Oct 2015 #50
It just pisses some people off that the vast majority of minorities love them some Hillary. nt LexVegas Oct 2015 #52
Trust me... Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #55
What bothers me is the lack of respect for and accurate recounting of the history of those times. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #61
+10 Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #62
I'm also puzzled by her need to do the bullshit, I could craft many answers for her that would have Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #66
Be honest about it...I mean Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #67
Yep portlander23 Oct 2015 #53
K&R CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #63
Congenital liars. nt FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #68
God that's a sad read ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #69
that and Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #70
Yes indeed ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #71
Good post, solid source Prism Oct 2015 #74
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