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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:17 PM Oct 2015

Hillary, Third Way & Kos Who Attacks Third Way this Week but Thinks Hillary Will Reject Them! Oops!! [View all]

I was surprised to see Kos from Daily Kos slam the Third Way this week as he generally isn't what many view as a Progressive Democrat.

Since every Democrat knows very well who these people are it was hardly necessary for Kos to explain why they should be viewed as the real threat they are to our party. But he did just in case there is anyone left who doesn't get it!

So for whatever reason, even Kos who prides himself on his 'pragmatism' (the Third Wayers love that word btw) apparently does know just how real the threat from this Wall St Think Tank is to the Dem Party:

Forget Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Third Way has figured out how to get you REALLY pumped

To my knowledge, Kos is not a Bernie fan, more of a Hillary fan, or whoever the Status Quo candidate might be. However even HE sees the sheer nonsense being spewed the these Wall St Investors regarding Progressive Ideals re SS and other popular issues with the American people as proposed by Sanders.

Because the Third Way has taken now to attacking both Elizabeth Warren AND Bernie Sanders which shows us how SCARED They are of the PEOPLE.


So aside from tossing out lower-income people as irrelevant, Third Way's definition of "middle class" seems to look, well, like their friends. And sure, those guys may not be motivated by the Black Lives Matter or Occupy or broader fairness movement, but the American majority is. And when the voter pool is expanded, Democrats win. This is so objectively obvious and true that it requires a certain degree of bullshit to pretend otherwise.

But hey, the stuff that excites you and motivates you to vote? Nope, not exciting. Third Way decided. But you know what Third Way thinks will get you pumped?


Well, they hate that Bernie wants to expand SS and give the PEOPLE their OWN MONEY when they retire:

First of all, let's recap what has gotten Third Way all hot and bothered.

Take, for example, a policy championed by Senator Bernie Sanders and others that is in danger of becoming a top progressive litmus test for Democrats—expanding Social Security benefits for all, regardless of income.


Fuck you. Too late. It's a good litmus test. And a popular one.


Good Diary from Kos, I'm glad he sees what a threat these arrogant, Wall St investors are and have been to our party.

HOWEVER, kos has claimed that Hillary is NOT 'beholden' to the Third Way:

Wrong Kos as this Diary proves:

kos, snap out of it. Hillary is owned by Third Way.

kos, I know you've been telling us for months that Hillary Clinton is a "true liberal," and that she has moved left to accommodate a more left-leaning electorate, but your piece earlier today about the Third Way's apparent panic over Sanders finishes with an extremely dubious conclusion:

Regardless who wins the Democratic nomination, our next president will be a Democrat, and he or she will do it by explicitly rejecting the Third Way agenda.


In that piece, you list the Third Way Board of Trustees. A simple search using the OpenSecrets.org database reveals a far more likely truth.


Kos is right about rejecting their agenda as a winning platform but Hillary won't be doing that which the Third Way clearly knows:

Here is the list of the Third Way's Board Members supplied by Kos in his Diary which most of us are familiar with:

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And From the Linked Diary Above:

In that piece, you list the Third Way Board of Trustees. A simple search using the OpenSecrets.org database reveals a far more likely truth.

Here are the Third Way board members who have donated to a Democratic presidential contender this cycle, including the amounts they've donated:

Georgette Bennett - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Lewis Cullman - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
William M. Daley - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Robert Dyson - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Derek Kaufman - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Thurgood Marshall, Jr. - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Herbert Miller - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Michael Novogratz - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Kirk Radke - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Ted Trimpa - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton
Joseph Zimlich - $2,700 - Hillary Clinton


See a pattern here, kos? Do you really believe Hillary Clinton will be "explicitly rejecting the Third Way agenda?"

Seriously?

Maybe if we all cross our fingers, our eyes and our legs, Hillary will be the liberal we're hoping for, right? Because, even though these folks are all maxed out to her campaign, we can rest assured that they expect nothing in return.

Even Bill Daley, the guy you expressly call out in your piece. The guy who maxed out to Hillary Clinton


Hard to deny, not sure what Kos's response was, but he WAS RIGHT when he said EVERY LIBERAL would reject them!

He just hasn't grasped yet that Hillary has TOLD US she is not a Liberal. She is a 'Moderate' and we have taken her at her word.

And so have The Third Way who warned her last week to beware of swing to the Left, or else!

Warren told them where to take their 'lectures' to HER.

But it appears that Hillary's support for the Death Penalty, for considering Raising the Retirement Age among other less than Liberal positions this week means SHE at least DOES take their advice!

Kos is still right however in that the Third Way must be REJECTED by our Party before they destroy it completely.

Oh, and I wonder how much they have poured into those Super Pacs of Hillary's???


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I believe the alliance will be their continued undoing icuc Oct 2015 #1
Well, one strategy, and Kos of all people, has raised it. They read that blog and especially sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #2
What they are is obvious in what they support Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #9
I hadn't seen his response to the fact that she is being funded by them until yesterday ... sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #58
Peter B Lewis is dead. He was the CEO of Progressive Insurance. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #3
Thanks for the information. Sorry to hear of his death. It's likely some of them are sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #5
Not gonna disagree on that. They are the true "elite" supremacists. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #11
Same as the DLC whose policies are the same and who became so unpopular with Dems sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #13
They are arrogant because they have been running the government for years. Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #30
Is he related to Daniel Lewis? aidbo Oct 2015 #15
They are brothers. Peter was the guy who built Progressive mainly. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #17
Yes, money buys influence in many ways and places. Hence why we should be so vigilant.. aidbo Oct 2015 #19
Third Way is a figment of our imagination .. ibegurpard Oct 2015 #4
Yeah, well not to most Democrats it isn't a figment of the imagination. If only that was true! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #6
I'm amazed at the contortions necessary Mnpaul Oct 2015 #26
I know, I would find that to be too exxhausting and just find a candidate who is easier sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #29
Kos is a progressive, Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #7
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. He found it necessary to 'evolve' sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #10
We don't disagree Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #33
I'm no fan of Kos, ChiTownDenny Nov 2015 #45
But you did waste your time. Welcome to DU btw. If you can point out anything that I said sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #51
It seems we both agree ChiTownDenny Nov 2015 #52
I speak from experience and can certainly link to any claim I make. Are you disputing ANYTHING sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #53
Pragmatism is a useful trait in politics. L. Coyote Oct 2015 #23
Pragmatism is fine Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #31
Disagree. Easy to characterize other's actions negatively though. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #39
Personal experience Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #43
The word has been overused, misused and has come to mean 'we know better than voters sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #57
He's one of those "Bush-Era" progressives Scootaloo Nov 2015 #47
I believe he has admitted to being a Republican back in the day Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #54
Thank you sabrina, for this post and the many, many other great posts you bring to DU! Scuba Oct 2015 #8
Thank you Scuba and the same to you. Thanks for all your contributions also. I look for sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #12
Excellent post! TheProgressive Oct 2015 #14
No problem. Just wanted to be sure that the myth going around about this destructiv sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #16
Excellent OP cantbeserious Oct 2015 #18
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #20
K n R!! bbgrunt Oct 2015 #21
Thanks for putting this out there Sabrina. Phlem Oct 2015 #22
but hillary is a progressive!! nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #24
Yeah, and I'm a unicorn MissDeeds Oct 2015 #25
Quit whining you damn malcontent. The Third Way is just an obscure Think Tank. Armstead Oct 2015 #27
K & R LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #28
Hillary will say or do anything to get elected Bernblu Oct 2015 #32
Big Time Bingo Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #35
Good post, I watch what they do now, not what they say, and I know that Bernie's actions sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #36
And the wealthy in spirit. It takes lots of little donors to make a big one. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #37
I would like to know about those used in the bundling of funds nolabels Nov 2015 #38
That's the max they can donate but yes, they are probably pouring money into Hillary's Super Pacs sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #50
Total K & R! SoapBox Nov 2015 #34
Pragmatism, the justification for ignoring the 16 million American children living in poverty. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #40
Yes it is a word used by cold hearted people who want to brush aside the results of sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #48
The Third WAy is a Think Tank. Of course Think really means Conspire. They are one of many rhett o rick Nov 2015 #41
I hear a lot of people say things like, sulphurdunn Nov 2015 #42
Yes, exactly! They OWN Debbie Wasserman Schultz eg. That is why NOTHING either the people or sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #49
Excellent OP sabrina 1! I hope you post it over on Daily Kos. Kip Humphrey Nov 2015 #44
Well, I got the information from there mostly. I don't know if kos sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #55
You're welcome Uncle Joe! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #56
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