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jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
15. Ihave heard this so many times but I actually dont see the connection
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:50 PM
Nov 2015

Can someone please draw the dots how the war in Iraq created the atmosphere for the Arab spring and maybe how that war brought weapons via Bengahzi to Syria that then fueled a civil war which weakened a govt to the point that ISIS was able to take advantage.

Can someone please connect the dots for me. Also by that reasoning, one could say that the years of sanctions and bombing under Bill Clinton's administration created a weak govt in Iraq that was then easily smashed by Bush's war which created ISIS or another way you can look at it. There was no ISIS until Obama and Russia got the Syrian govt to give up their chemical weapon stock. Maybe the chemical weapons prevented ISIS from invading and once removed, ISIS was created.

I think this is really simple, ISIS came about due to the whole democratic push by the people who supported regime change in Libya and Syria. They got the ball rolling and ISIS grew out of that fight. No need looking back 12-20 yrs in order to fight the cause.

I would argue that ISIS is the result of a poorly executed Iraq War ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #1
The Bush/Cheney decision to invade Iraq was a reasonable one? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #5
Do you ever read what is written? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #10
147 Democrats voted AGAINST the Iraq war resolution think Nov 2015 #18
LePage is angryvet Nov 2015 #27
Seems you'll never get past the preconceived notion Dem2 Nov 2015 #22
I know ... a character flaw. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #23
No not even! We did not need benefit of hindsight to know the Iraq invasion was the wrong thing to upaloopa Nov 2015 #6
NO we did not have Richard Clark and many more telling us so ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #11
Well I will have to disagree with you upaloopa Nov 2015 #31
This is a truly incredible line of bullshit you're trying to sell here melman Nov 2015 #32
You think so? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #36
A very valid point. Invasion based on lies, but why was it also executed so poorly? Justice Nov 2015 #14
It was flawed from the start ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #17
The majority of Democrats in the House voted No, so that's incorrect Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #33
You are correct regarding the vote totals. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #37
10/7/2002 CIA Deputy Director John McLaughlin informed Congress femmedem Nov 2015 #16
... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #20
Yes, I read that. But "unless attacked first" is important as well femmedem Nov 2015 #29
I agree--it not only was a wrong war ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #19
I see... so although it was a bogus war, if we'd just have done a better job whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #26
yes ... That's exactly what I meant ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #28
very well said restorefreedom Nov 2015 #2
And please remember the original name for the Iraq war was benld74 Nov 2015 #3
This One Looks Forward To The Debate When HRC Withdraws Referencing Her Role In Neocon Hegemony cantbeserious Nov 2015 #4
If we all learn from our mistakes and improve our actions we are better served. upaloopa Nov 2015 #8
Clearly One Has Not Listened - HRC Is Still A Neocon cantbeserious Nov 2015 #9
Knock knock ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #30
the U.S. military invasion, overthrow, and occupation bigtree Nov 2015 #7
+1000 ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #21
the US effort in the middle east has been under new management the past 7 yrs. Bush is no longer the msongs Nov 2015 #12
I'm looking for the candidate that will go after the funding sources riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #13
Ihave heard this so many times but I actually dont see the connection jamzrockz Nov 2015 #15
It was not an inevitable result of the Iraq War BainsBane Nov 2015 #24
ISIS had its genesis in 1989. randome Nov 2015 #25
Going forward, we need someone who doesn't think that the top jfern Nov 2015 #34
I agree with this: LWolf Nov 2015 #35
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