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DemocratSinceBirth

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11. As a dispassionate observer I must give this round to BlueCaliDemocrat .
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:56 AM
Nov 2015

And there's this:

Bernie Sanders had the weakest night of the three Democrats onstage at Saturday night’s debate.
That’s according to a survey of the POLITICO Caucus, a bipartisan group of influential strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, who weighed in immediately following the second Democratic primary debate.

Nearly half of Democrats surveyed said the Vermont senator lost the debate, and only 10 percent of Democrats said he won. Those insiders who said Sanders had the worst night argued that he appeared out of his depth on foreign policy a day after terrorist attacks rocked France. He spent just a few seconds addressing the matter in his opening statement before pivoting to his familiar pitch about the economy, in stark contrast to rival Hillary Clinton, a former secretary of state who devoted her entire statement to the Paris attacks.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/insiders-bad-night-for-bernie-215901#ixzz3rZMzdqHD







Democratic Voters Overwhelmingly Think Clinton Won Debate; Particularly Strong on National Security Issues



A Public Policy Polling survey of Democratic primary voters nationally who watched tonight’s debate finds that it reinforced Hillary Clinton’s front runner status. Viewers overwhelmingly think she won the debate, and particularly trust her over the rest of the Democratic field when it comes to issues of national security.

Key findings from the survey include:

-67% of voters think Clinton won the debate, to 20% for Bernie Sanders and 7% for Martin O’Malley. On a related note 63% of viewers said the debate gave them a more positive opinion of Clinton, compared to 41% who said it gave them a more positive opinion of Sanders, and 37% who said it gave them a more positive opinion of O’Malley.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/




Iowa Focus Group: Among 33 undecided Iowans, HRC clearly wins debate by 23 to 10, and moves 11 undecided to her camp versus 3 for Sanders.

https://twitter.com/ChrisKofinis/status/665752437391659014?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



After Strong Iowa Debate GOP Pollster Warns That Hillary Clinton Will Not Be Easy to Beat



Frank Luntz, the guy who crafts talking points for Republicans and does polls, has a warning for Republican candidates after Saturday night’s Democratic debate: Hillary Clinton will not be easy to beat.

Luntz warned, “If GOP thinks Hillary is easily beatable, they’re wrong It’s not just words, but her tone & style are the best I’ve seen so far.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/15/republican-pollster-warn-gop-hillary-clinton-easy-beat.html


I came across This this AM WTH? fredamae Nov 2015 #1
that's how they roll n/t FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #3
My head is Faux pas Nov 2015 #6
Oh,the filth runs deep! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #37
Got it Faux pas Nov 2015 #63
IMO, you guys are completely missing the big picture. You bet the dNC management Hortensis Nov 2015 #107
Good find. First, I had heard of that. azmom Nov 2015 #7
Right-wing conspiracy crap has no place on a Democratic Party supporting site. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #12
Are you claiming Hillary didn't make that comment? Perogie Nov 2015 #14
WHAT comment? No comment by Hillary is cited at the link. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #21
I repeat fredamae Nov 2015 #17
You don't need to repeat. I got it the first time. And you're still wrong. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #30
I believe it is fredamae Nov 2015 #33
If you research floriduck Nov 2015 #52
I'm sure you will defend Bernie just as much when Hillary drops out..... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #51
Not defending anything. Just bringing clarity to an attempt to confuse in an attempt to BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #69
He's the "front runner" in the straw poll by A LOT.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #81
Good. Just checking. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #92
OMFG...yet another fucking loyalty test Sheepshank Nov 2015 #126
I know... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #128
this would have never become an issue at all.. DianeK Nov 2015 #56
What makes you think he won't? We're still in the primaries. The CPD, of which he's an BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #76
Are you stating this information is bogus? nm floriduck Nov 2015 #45
I believe I was clear in my initial post and the follow-up what I'm stating, BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #62
Hmmm, didn't I just see a Hillary supporter using Frank Luntz as a source? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #61
So? Was it an article written by a Ron Paul supporter, sourced from notorious RW-propaganda sites? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #64
Not at all. It is more like Honeycrisp vs Jonathon. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #67
Good thing your opinion doesn't constitute a fact, eh? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #71
And your inability to not see the similarities are quite telling. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #79
Another opinion of yours - not backed by any evidence other than YOUR inability to BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #94
What I really don't understand is how your post makes any sense at all. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #110
I've noticed. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #113
Please support the People and not the billionaires. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #116
An article written by this man? Loki Nov 2015 #24
Good philosslayer Nov 2015 #48
Wow! if true, he needs to step down from that commission. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #132
I like her more now Kalidurga Nov 2015 #2
I agree ejbr Nov 2015 #31
I know right Kalidurga Nov 2015 #111
For This One - Neocons Pushed Iraq Invasion - HRC Voted YES On IWR - HRC Bears Responsibility cantbeserious Nov 2015 #4
"HRC is not redeemable from this perspective in this one's eyes." Not surprising. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #15
Good question Andy823 Nov 2015 #19
I was an Obama Mama and am voting for Sanders. bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #32
Why? After years of excoriating President Obama, you'll reward Sanders and support him? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #42
Why? Hit the minus box in the upper left corner. Click on the New Democrat's texts below. DhhD Nov 2015 #73
I understand YOUR reason - Pres. Obama is not left enough. But for a self-identified "Obama-mama" BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #75
Except: Please look at and analyze the 2008 Campaign promises. Supporting Obama now as a New Democ DhhD Nov 2015 #82
I'm sorry, but when you toss the word "third way" into a discussion, my eyes roll up BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #89
Thank you for asking me in today. Social Security Reform is on the, third way, reform list. Let us DhhD Nov 2015 #98
You're discussing domestic policy. Domestic policy is NOT under the constitutional powers of the BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #101
Lets hear from Hillary Clinton on that in the next Debate. I hope that nothing happens to DhhD Nov 2015 #102
It's already out there. You can read it at your leisure BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #104
How in fuck is Third Way considered a conspiracy theory? frylock Nov 2015 #144
I WAS an Obama MaMa back in 2008 bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #148
President Obama kept his promises where he was able to. Anyone who says he didn't, isn't BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #149
You answered me with this numbered lesson, as if I was putting down the President. I was not! bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #150
I apologize if that's how my post came across. I know you weren't putting President Obama down. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #151
It's Important to recognize the Context in which Sanders said that. Duval Nov 2015 #86
Oh, I knew in what context he spoke those words - on various shows, including Ed Schultz'. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #91
Wasn't that also the time Obama Duval Nov 2015 #105
Because they are voting based on policy and not personality? cui bono Nov 2015 #108
Then again I ask, why support Sanders? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #114
His policies best represent the people. cui bono Nov 2015 #117
I disagree. His policy *ideas* sound like they best represent the people. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #124
Nothing is as bad as the IWR if you're talking voting records. cui bono Nov 2015 #130
The PLCAA is worse. You should read up on it, then judge. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #131
I don't think so. You should read up on ISIS. cui bono Nov 2015 #134
Yea, well, I do. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #135
So how is this worse than voting for the IWR that Sanders voted No on? cui bono Nov 2015 #136
Still throwing stones, I see. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #140
I'M throwing stones? Your entire posts are throwing stones. cui bono Nov 2015 #147
K N R Faux pas Nov 2015 #5
Limit exposure? Reminder! The DNC only held six debates for the 2004 and 2008 presidential election! BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #8
LOL FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #10
As a dispassionate observer I must give this round to BlueCaliDemocrat . DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #11
I like Bernie's policies a lot better The Green Manalishi Nov 2015 #57
After being ignored by the MSM for so long, Bernie is Duval Nov 2015 #90
"Dispassionate observer" cui bono Nov 2015 #112
"Dispassionate observer" = Honest broker DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #118
Thanks for making my point. cui bono Nov 2015 #137
Thanks for making my point DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #138
Your "dispassionate observer" schtick isn't working... Oilwellian Nov 2015 #119
Are you annoyed or amused? It's difficult to tell. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #120
If you don't believe DSB is an honest broker there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that ... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #125
This needs to be an OP. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #26
Thanks, NJ. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #49
There's this... tecelote Nov 2015 #28
Fair. You can criticize DWS for that new rule, but let's be honest here...Sanders is getting MORE BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #36
This has nothing to do with Bernie's or Hillary's electability. tecelote Nov 2015 #40
You know as well as I that that's not true. It's all about Sanders and his electability. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #47
You say "It's all about Sanders and his electability." tecelote Nov 2015 #55
DWS is the reason, tecelote. Duval Nov 2015 #87
Yes. Agreed... sigh! tecelote Nov 2015 #95
It is. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #88
Come on... tecelote Nov 2015 #96
Like I said, you consider it an excuse. I consider it an explanation. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #100
It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma to Hillary supporters Oilwellian Nov 2015 #121
I would have thought that Bernie preferred his 10,000+ rallys for messaging Sheepshank Nov 2015 #127
The candidates should not have to work around a rule that coerces candidates Ms. Toad Nov 2015 #66
Actually I think more debates PatSeg Nov 2015 #34
I agree with you on that. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #54
Last night on MSNBC PatSeg Nov 2015 #78
I wish they'd bring Howard Dean back as chair of the DNC. DWS has been a disaster BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #97
Totally agree PatSeg Nov 2015 #106
I didn't get to watch it but from all I've read, she did well. Laser102 Nov 2015 #43
Too bad she has no competition to speak of BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #9
. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #13
Can't decide:did Bernie's awesome performance kick Hillary's ass, or did she do that all by herself? AzDar Nov 2015 #16
This is like shooting fish in a freaking barrel DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #103
At least she will be among friends on Dec. 17, at that $33,400 per plate SoapBox Nov 2015 #18
You're referring to the fundraiser for down-ticket Democrats. Metric System Nov 2015 #22
Well associating the 911 terror attack as justification for the funding INdemo Nov 2015 #25
Yep. She deflected the question sammythecat Nov 2015 #41
This was last quarter INdemo Nov 2015 #109
That was a big mistake on her part and will Duval Nov 2015 #93
And of course, Sanders would NEVER do such a thing... brooklynite Nov 2015 #99
People see what they are predisposed to see Dem2 Nov 2015 #20
I agree with you PatSeg Nov 2015 #74
I don't know how to respond Dem2 Nov 2015 #77
Okay, that got a laugh out of me PatSeg Nov 2015 #80
Absolutely. zentrum Nov 2015 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #27
She was also very misleading about her contributors fbc Nov 2015 #29
Yes I caught that and had already seen the contributor post before. She lied. bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #35
no she didn't technically lie fbc Nov 2015 #39
That's one of those things where you know they're misleading FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #68
t'is cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #38
Yeah, that 9/11 Wall Street gaffe was really, really bad. It's going to haunt her the rest of askew Nov 2015 #44
It was only bad to desperate Bernie Sanders supporters. moobu2 Nov 2015 #53
And to anyone with a shred of dignity. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #60
Hillary Clinton represented New York City when 9.11 happened moobu2 Nov 2015 #65
Exactly, and notice only morally pious anti-Hillary R B Garr Nov 2015 #72
Really? Because so did Rudy Giuliani HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #85
"After dodging sniper fire to save Wall Street from 9/11, I gave the order to kill bin Laden." whereisjustice Nov 2015 #46
Painful FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #59
More debates isn't going to help Bernie. moobu2 Nov 2015 #50
+1 NurseJackie Nov 2015 #146
She cannot defend money in politics because... Helen Borg Nov 2015 #58
I said this in another thread. jaycrewz Nov 2015 #70
Her argument was absurd.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #83
Voodoo ecomomics? Hepburn Nov 2015 #122
That must be why Hillary's poll numbers went up after the first debate BainsBane Nov 2015 #84
They both answer to the billionaires. Vote with the People and not the billionaires. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #115
you must not have watched the same debate I watched. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #123
I know, right? Sanders once again revealed himself to be a one-issue candidate. Metric System Nov 2015 #129
Hey you must....... UglyGreed Nov 2015 #133
Clinton has more exposure than any candidate. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #139
And thanks to Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders is enjoying that exposure, too. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #141
She has some pretty impressive coattails. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #142
Yes, she does. That's why all this griping about "not enough debates!!" is so confusing. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #143
Hillary 9/11 gaffe shows that she doesn't think well on her feet. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #145
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