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TM99

(8,352 posts)
145. Uh, yes, actually it is.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:37 PM
Nov 2015

If you can't confirm something, then you can only guess, speculate, imagine, wonder, offer opinionated thoughts, etc.

Cantor Fitzgerald Was Wiped Out In the Twin Towers cantbeserious Nov 2015 #1
Yes. The lists here of tenants at the time show mostly financial corporations Ghost Dog Nov 2015 #159
Wasn't there a lot of short selling just before the attacks? -none Nov 2015 #2
Yep... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #4
You forgot the link to the loony conspiracy site where you got that dreck... SidDithers Nov 2015 #113
Love that word "dreck" randys1 Nov 2015 #153
Oh, Sid... you think everyone's a loon... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #157
The only evidence one will find in the archives of DU2's dungeon JTFrog Nov 2015 #194
Good catch, Sid! BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #201
Oh yes! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #30
No, that is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that blames the Jews for 9/11. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #79
The World Trade Center was, if I'm not mistaken sort of at the heart of Wall Street physically and Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #3
They're actually about a mile apart starroute Nov 2015 #18
Thanks. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #19
What a weird map leftynyc Nov 2015 #108
A tourist site says it's one mile starroute Nov 2015 #111
Yes - it is the financial district leftynyc Nov 2015 #114
yes thank you for a common sense reply Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #179
I am pretty sure you are playing dumb, but I will attempt it. Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #5
The question was not whether or not she aided 911 victims, but whether hedgehog Nov 2015 #6
They were talking about the 08 crash Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #11
that's right there was no collapse after 911 Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #182
to bad that is not what the question was about Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #188
Sanders backed her up on her claims, praised her, and said he helped emulatorloo Nov 2015 #203
Here DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #12
As it happened, I came across the same link you posted, and would point out the following: hedgehog Nov 2015 #14
It took a while... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #15
The GDP for New York City was estimated to have declined by $30.3 billion the year following 9/11 bettyellen Nov 2015 #50
But I think when the reference "Wall Street" is used, it specifically hedgehog Nov 2015 #69
you think everyone who works on Wall street is part of the 1%? Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #183
Not everyone associated or dependent on Wall Street firms is part of "Wall Street" hedgehog Nov 2015 #184
We lost hundred of businesses to NJ almost immediately. An entire new financial center emerged in bettyellen Nov 2015 #20
Losing jobs may have been a consequence TM99 Nov 2015 #28
they chose WTC as a symbol of international commerce to disrupt. this was oft discussed bettyellen Nov 2015 #32
No actually they didn't. TM99 Nov 2015 #38
The GDP for New York City was estimated to have declined by $30.3 billion the year following 9/11 bettyellen Nov 2015 #42
You aren't getting this are you. TM99 Nov 2015 #48
OMG, the high profile targets were chosen because R B Garr Nov 2015 #63
Ummmm...plenty of "civilians" work in the Pentagon. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #91
Sigh. The Pentagon was hit for its symbolism. R B Garr Nov 2015 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #98
For fucks sake yourself. Civilians are not a target R B Garr Nov 2015 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #103
Hilarious!! Go back and read post 48 which R B Garr Nov 2015 #107
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #133
LMAO, people who work at the Pentagon are Federal employees. R B Garr Nov 2015 #136
Postal workerss aren't military either. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #143
Whats asinine is to say the Pentagon was hit R B Garr Nov 2015 #148
That's not what I understood the poster to say. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #155
Uh huh. R B Garr Nov 2015 #164
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #154
Good Lord! This is ridiculous. CIA might not be active R B Garr Nov 2015 #165
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #168
Yet YOU are the one who responded to me first R B Garr Nov 2015 #169
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #178
Then it's obvious what we both meant, so quit R B Garr Nov 2015 #186
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #286
LMAO, oh my God, your ego is not my problem. R B Garr Nov 2015 #287
"There are no civilians at the Pentagon." Well, that is 100% WRONG! cleanhippie Nov 2015 #170
They are Federal employees. They represent the R B Garr Nov 2015 #171
Yes, SOME are Federal Employess, but they are still CIVILIANS. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #172
Obviously you didn't read the post I responded to R B Garr Nov 2015 #173
I read the post where you wrote "There are no civilians at the Pentagon." That is 100% wrong. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #174
Admit you didn't read the post.I responded to R B Garr Nov 2015 #176
Asking why you refuse to admit that you made a false statement isn't personally attacking you. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #177
Admit that you still didn't read post 48 R B Garr Nov 2015 #180
Post #48 is irrelevant, I'm talking about your factually wrong statement and nothing more. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #181
LMAO, at least you admit you can't be bothered R B Garr Nov 2015 #189
You can pretend your statement of "There are no civilians at the Pentagon" is not the issue here. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #192
You are the laughable one. Look at your non-content R B Garr Nov 2015 #199
So in your reality, no civilians work at the pentagon, and pointing out that it's false is an insult cleanhippie Nov 2015 #202
What's clear is that you refused to read R B Garr Nov 2015 #205
Did you state "there are no civilians at the pentagon"? cleanhippie Nov 2015 #206
You already stated you would not read for content, R B Garr Nov 2015 #209
What content makes "there are no civilians at the pentagon" a true statement? cleanhippie Nov 2015 #210
See above R B Garr Nov 2015 #212
That's what I thought, you've got absolutely nothing. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #215
That's what I thought, too. You are just here to R B Garr Nov 2015 #216
Here to point out that your statement "there are no civilians at the pentagon" is false. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #217
Here to point out that you refused to R B Garr Nov 2015 #221
Keep bumping the thread so everyone gets to see you contort yourself to avoid admitting you're wrong cleanhippie Nov 2015 #223
Yes, keep bumping to show that you refused to R B Garr Nov 2015 #224
Again, what content makes "there are no civilians at the pentagon" a true statement? cleanhippie Nov 2015 #225
Bump for gameplayers who refuse to R B Garr Nov 2015 #227
Ok, you win! I give up! I surrender. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #230
You are the one with the pride. Quit projecting your R B Garr Nov 2015 #234
I'll give you one last try. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #237
Since you refused to read for content it's obvious R B Garr Nov 2015 #240
I see that up is down in your world. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #243
What's WOW are the lame attempts to rewrite history R B Garr Nov 2015 #244
... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #226
I can't post doggie videos from my phone R B Garr Nov 2015 #228
Really you are digging a hole. msrizzo Nov 2015 #232
His/her denial of the fact that civilians do work at the pentagon is stupefying. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #235
Please, don't be ridiculous. R B Garr Nov 2015 #236
FFS, federal employees ARE civilians. What. The. Fuck. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #238
LMAO, you refuse to read for content, yet you know R B Garr Nov 2015 #239
Wow. Just wow. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #242
LMAO! Sorry your attack failed. R B Garr Nov 2015 #245
I'll just leave this here. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #248
The Pentagon was not attacked as a civilian target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #249
You said "there are no civilians at the pentagon". That's patently untrue. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #250
You said you would not read for content R B Garr Nov 2015 #251
Do civilians work at the pentagon or not? cleanhippie Nov 2015 #252
The Pentagon is not a civilian target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #253
That's not in dispute, your factually wrong statement is. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #255
You refused to read for content and are now R B Garr Nov 2015 #256
Yeah, me telling you repeatedly that yiur statement is wrong is backpedaling. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #257
Ah, the personal attacks -- your true motive. R B Garr Nov 2015 #258
Keep telling yourself that. Seems to be what you're best at. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #259
It wasn't that hard to see your motives. R B Garr Nov 2015 #260
Obviously cleanhippie Nov 2015 #262
Just as I predicted, even. R B Garr Nov 2015 #263
You know it to be true, just like you know "there are no civilians at the pentagon". cleanhippie Nov 2015 #264
No, it's just like I know you refused to read the post R B Garr Nov 2015 #265
"There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #266
The Pentagon was a government target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #267
"There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #268
The Pentagon is a government target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #269
"There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #270
The Pentagon is a government target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #271
"There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #272
Thanks for showing you are just here to play games R B Garr Nov 2015 #274
The Pentagon is a government target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #275
"There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #277
The Pentagon is a government target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #278
"There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #280
Thanks for showing you are just here to play games. R B Garr Nov 2015 #281
The Pentagon is not a civilian target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #282
"There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #283
The Pentagon is not a civilian target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #284
There are no civilians at the pentagon" cleanhippie Nov 2015 #288
The Pentagon is not a civilian target. R B Garr Nov 2015 #289
Thanks for showing you are just here to play games. R B Garr Nov 2015 #290
Thanks for showing you are just here to play games. R B Garr Nov 2015 #285
Thanks for showing you are just here to play games. R B Garr Nov 2015 #279
Please read my response again. msrizzo Nov 2015 #246
Hi, feel free to read the other responses as well R B Garr Nov 2015 #247
YOU are not getting the actual huge impact on hundreds of thousands of people. Not at all. bettyellen Nov 2015 #65
Yet, again, the impact is not the issue. TM99 Nov 2015 #66
No. Again no. He was smearing her with Wall Street R B Garr Nov 2015 #80
Get this Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #185
Well how about this? TM99 Nov 2015 #187
boo hoo, you have cut me to the quick. Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #191
I think you will live. TM99 Nov 2015 #195
I clearly remember those discussions. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #102
I think a lot of people forgot, but I have read so many ignorant things about NYC in general the bettyellen Nov 2015 #125
tank the US economy as a whole. It didn't happen, AlbertCat Nov 2015 #131
The stock market had to shut down Sheepshank Nov 2015 #160
The stock market had to shut down AlbertCat Nov 2015 #162
Totally wrong. Wall Street is invoked by Sanders as the R B Garr Nov 2015 #35
Now we have people expressing resentment NYC was "bailed out" after 9/11. Do they even think? bettyellen Nov 2015 #47
I'm disgusted, too. Now New York goes under the bus R B Garr Nov 2015 #56
Disgusted NYer here also leftynyc Nov 2015 #110
It is indeed desperate in a sick way. If it makes Clinton R B Garr Nov 2015 #146
I'm having another leftynyc Nov 2015 #149
WOW, it's so incredibly sick! She answers a generalized smear in R B Garr Nov 2015 #151
True, which is why leftynyc Nov 2015 #156
Thank you, your contributions to keep this thread R B Garr Nov 2015 #166
take heart Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #193
No one objects that New York City was helped with hedgehog Nov 2015 #273
at least one idiot called the aide NYC got after 9/11 Wall St's first bailout. bettyellen Nov 2015 #276
The entire building that housed leftynyc Nov 2015 #109
Oh my God Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #190
I appreciate what she did as the Senator for NY TM99 Nov 2015 #8
Frankly at that time, having friends right in the area of the attack, politicians were the last sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #31
If I recall correctly, Ms. Yertle Nov 2015 #7
No. TM99 Nov 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Ms. Yertle Nov 2015 #21
Plus the towers had been attacked before. Finishing the job? jwirr Nov 2015 #25
Yes, that came up in the investigation TM99 Nov 2015 #27
This was my understanding as well Dem2 Nov 2015 #13
Post hoc fallacy. TM99 Nov 2015 #26
I will do this once and only once... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #9
Regardless of any of this. How would it, even if Hillary is right, affect her taking such huge sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #33
World Trade Center, duh? eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #16
Hard to believe isn't it? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #23
Anything to prop up a failed campaign, I guess. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #57
And how does that, which happened 15 years ago, explain why Hillary is NOW taking so much money sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #36
Didn't you know Bin Laden hated Wall St for it's freedom!!!11!11 Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #17
Look at a map BainsBane Nov 2015 #22
Again - "Wall Street" is not generally used to indicate a location but rather as short hand hedgehog Nov 2015 #29
It was the TRADE Center and The WFC- World Financial Center next door also closed down. bettyellen Nov 2015 #34
Then of course it did BainsBane Nov 2015 #41
The question she was asked was about her huge Wall St donations NOW. The moderator reminded her sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #39
No, it wasn't about now BainsBane Nov 2015 #44
It's like they have been brainwashed to hate NYC now. Disgusting xenophobia. bettyellen Nov 2015 #46
What? What ARE you talking about? We always opposed bailing out the Criminals on Wall St sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #49
The topic is 9/11. Nice try. You called 08 ANOTHER BAILOUT for Wall St. It was not. bettyellen Nov 2015 #51
The topic is Hillary's answer to the question she was asked. Which had zero to do with 9/11. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #54
You can't seem to separate out the 1% from average working NYers. The bailouts were very different bettyellen Nov 2015 #58
Don't you DARE put words like that in my mouth. I was in NY that day and attempting to twist sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #64
the crash of the national economy was not the subject- as desperately as you try to confuse the bettyellen Nov 2015 #81
None of what you typed had to do with Clinton's R B Garr Nov 2015 #82
She was asked about her huge donations from Wall St and she went all the way back 15 years sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #89
She was not asked about her "huge donations". R B Garr Nov 2015 #94
And the most obvious target with the most likely casualties and the greatest financial impact. OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #55
I have a relative who was in the area and she talked about jwirr Nov 2015 #24
Wow, just a little dust, huh? Unfuckingbelievable. bettyellen Nov 2015 #37
Do you remember the question Hillary was asked? It had zero to do with 9/11 which happened sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #40
Her donor base also includes many loyal NYers and women. I have no problem with that. bettyellen Nov 2015 #43
Of course there are good reasons, that's why she was so upset when the question was asked. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #45
you are confused about her donor base then, vs her donor base now. sorry! bettyellen Nov 2015 #52
she was asked basically why she had so many wall street donors Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #197
I know. Tragic, but it has nothing to do with Hillary's relationship with Goldman Sachs. merrily Nov 2015 #231
Well, a Goldman Sachs trader got a paper cut on his pinky so Hillary put a Band-Aid on it. Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #53
WOW. Fucking disgusting. bettyellen Nov 2015 #60
You do realize the majority of casualties on 9/11 occurred in the World Trade Center. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #62
Thanks for your fake outrage. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #67
Your sick humor is disgusting, fortunately I never need read another sick post from you. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #70
Sorry if it offended you but it was just a light hearted joke. No harm was meant Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #77
Thanks for mocking the victims of the biggest tragedy NYC has ever had. bettyellen Nov 2015 #73
As I said above, I apologize if I offended anyone. It was sarcasm Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #78
thank you for this nice comment Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #207
Results LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #68
This is one of the most disgusting posts I've ever read on DU mcar Nov 2015 #83
Your post is repulsive leftynyc Nov 2015 #112
yes. it was. mopinko Nov 2015 #59
No just a lot of false memories TM99 Nov 2015 #71
Second most disgusting post in this thread. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #84
That you are disgusted and commenting TM99 Nov 2015 #85
You are a shining example of a Sanders supporter MohRokTah Nov 2015 #86
Right back at you beautiful. TM99 Nov 2015 #87
Hey you~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #92
yup mopinko Nov 2015 #118
dude, i'm a bernie supporter mopinko Nov 2015 #90
My ex-fiance from TM99 Nov 2015 #93
that is just not how i see the whole thing. mopinko Nov 2015 #100
Did I mention the Clinton Foundation? TM99 Nov 2015 #117
"False memories" to support a candidate? You should be ashamed of yourself, but... George II Nov 2015 #121
People don't get it.... George II Nov 2015 #120
yup. mopinko Nov 2015 #141
Yes. OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #61
But does one attack Wall Street by killing people and destroying offices, hedgehog Nov 2015 #74
Ask Congressman bin Laden. OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #75
Umm, have you ever been to NYC? DanTex Nov 2015 #72
9/11 had NO effect on Wall Street. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #88
Bullshit leftynyc Nov 2015 #115
Dubya kept blaming 9/11 for his economic failure... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #123
You simply don't have a clue leftynyc Nov 2015 #127
Please tell us more about how Hillary failed in her economic heroics. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #129
Deflection is the only way leftynyc Nov 2015 #130
Actually, I'm doing quite well baiting a Hillary supporter into defending her ridiculous claim.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #132
LOL - and now shoving words into my mouth leftynyc Nov 2015 #138
You really are going to go there, aren't you.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #139
Don't even try that, cupcake leftynyc Nov 2015 #147
Top economists agree that 9/11 had ZERO effect on the economy..... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #161
Come down to NYC and leftynyc Nov 2015 #163
I'll ask them if they believe she was given Wall Street money as a thank you for helping them. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #198
I can't thank you enough leftynyc Nov 2015 #233
You are demonstrating politics at it's ugliest. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #241
I think he should ask the owner of an Italian deli Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #211
The Koch Industries small business didn't. valerief Nov 2015 #158
wtf? BootinUp Nov 2015 #167
You Hillary supporters really need to stop echoing Dubya. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #196
This is not a question of echoing anybody BootinUp Nov 2015 #200
Really? Do you REALLY believe Wall Street is paying her big bucks because of 9/11? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #214
Did the OP get changed? I guess you want BootinUp Nov 2015 #218
I'll take that as an uncomfortable "no". Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #220
Of course you will, lol. BootinUp Nov 2015 #222
. UglyGreed Nov 2015 #96
Yes, and at least symbolically treestar Nov 2015 #97
Bin Laden chose three targets: The Capitol Building, The Pentagon, and the World Trade Center Skinner Nov 2015 #101
I can't believe you have to explain that MaggieD Nov 2015 #105
Of course, it's painfully obvious. zappaman Nov 2015 #106
His words I already quoted above TM99 Nov 2015 #119
that is not speculation treestar Nov 2015 #134
And yet the quote I give from the commission TM99 Nov 2015 #137
Not confirmable is not quite the same thing as speculation. treestar Nov 2015 #142
Uh, yes, actually it is. TM99 Nov 2015 #145
Why would it be a wild guess or speculation treestar Nov 2015 #150
if you were right Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #204
I see I have a new friend. TM99 Nov 2015 #208
Yes they were MaggieD Nov 2015 #104
Because that is not what Osama Bin Laden TM99 Nov 2015 #126
well I would definately Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #213
Yes, of course, TM99 Nov 2015 #219
She may not have articulated her point very well but I agree with other posters on this thread. randome Nov 2015 #116
They may not have understood the depth of the economy treestar Nov 2015 #135
It really is a clash between two different worlds. randome Nov 2015 #175
Yes, it was. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #122
If you know NYC geography - it was hit karynnj Nov 2015 #124
Gosh hedgehog, take down your silly post to avoid looking foolish to the world. Many riversedge Nov 2015 #128
I think the thread is illuminating (albeit with a lot of flames) hedgehog Nov 2015 #144
The World Trade Center was the target. mmonk Nov 2015 #140
You forget the entire area was trashed FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #152
It pretty much remained much a ghost town for years thereafter.. Historic NY Nov 2015 #261
Yes and no. It's complicated. But two things: merrily Nov 2015 #229
Of course not. Smarmie Doofus Nov 2015 #254
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