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2016 Postmortem

stevenleser

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11. I don't believe in the existence of the deep state.

Reply to TwilightGardener (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:37 PM

Nov 2015

In any country, even a dictatorship, even one as repressive as Iraq under Hussein or Germany under Hitler, there are interest groups that exert pressure on the government.

Some of them are groups whose ideals and goals we generally (or completely in some cases) agree with, like Code Pink or the NAACP, and some we don't.

Elevating that to the conspiracy that some have done, that of a nefarious organization that controls the government and can trump congress and/or the President is silly.

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The Deep State, Hillary Clinton and fake democracy - NYTimes [View all] EdwardBernays Nov 2015 OP

Cue the conspiracy theorist crowd in 3-2-1 .... Scuba Nov 2015 #1

v look here v.... you beat him here by mere seconds!! FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #7

The New York times is a rag:They publish stories with left out facts lewebley3 Nov 2015 #8

So, which paper would you consider Segami Nov 2015 #9

A paper that is has reliable information, not many nowadays lewebley3 Nov 2015 #10

Yes, but which paper do YOU consider Segami Nov 2015 #12

The guy's a nut. Tommy2Tone Nov 2015 #2

Nobody but nobody is afraid, scared or whatever of Bernie Sanders upaloopa Nov 2015 #3

Well, Donald Trump has stated that he wants Hillary because 'she will be easier to beat'! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #6

Are there people here who don't believe in the existence of the deep state? TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #4

I don't believe in the existence of the deep state. stevenleser Nov 2015 #11

Well, good for you. I know this: nothing ever seriously threatens the status quo. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #13

Really? Ask an LGBT person whether their status quo has changed in the last eight years. stevenleser Nov 2015 #14

You think what's referred to as the Deep State TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #15

Code Pink is a group that puts pressure on the government regarding national security issues. stevenleser Nov 2015 #16

Code Pink has about as much impact on the deep state and national security TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #17

Well, there is no deep state. But in terms of their impact on the government, I am sure they make stevenleser Nov 2015 #18

I'm certain there is. It's Booz Allen, it's KBR and Halliburton, it's Lockheed Martin, TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #19

Not unless one of them is a shareholder. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #22

The black helicopters are coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! leftofcool Nov 2015 #5

Thanks, we are absolutely living under a Deep State dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #20

+1 RiverLover Nov 2015 #21