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single payer because our system is fucked beyond repair ibegurpard Nov 2015 #1
How do I know what you are saying is real? upaloopa Nov 2015 #5
What we have now is terrible newfie11 Nov 2015 #37
There are many in America that like our system now yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #48
I'm on Medicare and ChampVA newfie11 Nov 2015 #50
Does the majority like their Heath care? Yes. Democracy works yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #51
If you like what you have now Kentonio Nov 2015 #69
Well actually I did use the Italian program yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #70
Hmm.. Kentonio Nov 2015 #72
Do. Your. Research. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Nov 2015 #2
How about this... bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #3
I agree. I expect experts to critique each upaloopa Nov 2015 #9
What a cop out. bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #10
What are experts saying about our appalling health care system? arcane1 Nov 2015 #18
yo Matariki Nov 2015 #49
Uh, yeah Aerows Nov 2015 #4
Sorry those are not our only choices upaloopa Nov 2015 #11
Actually, yes, they are. Aerows Nov 2015 #23
Please don't be a dumbass. Ron Green Nov 2015 #33
Thank you! Nt newfie11 Nov 2015 #40
Your conservatism is showing. Broward Nov 2015 #6
What does that even mean? upaloopa Nov 2015 #12
Sure, that's what you're doing. Trying to understand single payer. Broward Nov 2015 #17
But that would be SOSHIALISM!!!! Plus, they would tax the Middle Class!11!!! Romulox Nov 2015 #7
not because other countries do it restorefreedom Nov 2015 #8
Do any of you ever look any deeper than words? upaloopa Nov 2015 #14
WE do AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #16
what would you like me to look at? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #24
Then why do so few countries do it? Recursion Nov 2015 #65
most modern countries restorefreedom Nov 2015 #80
Yep. But we're committed to dying on the hill of being just like Canada Recursion Nov 2015 #81
i dn't know what oecd means... restorefreedom Nov 2015 #82
Strawman. And a lame one at that. Single Payer because it's the best option. It works. arcane1 Nov 2015 #13
You haven't done shit. People are not willing to vote for that upaloopa Nov 2015 #19
I thought you wanted to listen to experts, not DUers arcane1 Nov 2015 #22
So now its because people won't vote for it? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #25
Oh. I see Aerows Nov 2015 #26
Cheaper with better outcomes AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #15
You'll stay at 25% to 30% with that upaloopa Nov 2015 #21
You said yourself that single payer was the ideal bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #27
Coming from you that is meaningless AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #30
The current system - ObamaRomneycare - is not working. reformist2 Nov 2015 #20
I want single payer and have for decades. The only thing that makes any sense PatrickforO Nov 2015 #28
Hey, do you think you could Aerows Nov 2015 #29
Can you explain how we put single payer in place upaloopa Nov 2015 #32
You first - tell me why breathing oxygen is bad. n/t Aerows Nov 2015 #35
Said...... 99Forever Nov 2015 #31
Well, we examine two things. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #34
Medicare for all enid602 Nov 2015 #79
She laid out a big ol case for expansive and endless war, & more warrantless surveillance; combined Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #36
You need to speak up for a cause and we know the cause :( n/t slipslidingaway Nov 2015 #61
Single payer because we can TIME TO PANIC Nov 2015 #38
We don't want to think too hard BootinUp Nov 2015 #39
I heard that same comment on Fox News. TIME TO PANIC Nov 2015 #42
care to expand your thoughts? BootinUp Nov 2015 #44
About 50% of voters support single payer MaggieD Nov 2015 #41
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No, your current FICA is 8% so would be 18% MaggieD Nov 2015 #60
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He won't mention it because he knows.... MaggieD Nov 2015 #63
Because the discussion is over. Single payer is clearly the best way forward. eom NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #43
I suggest that you go to Canada, sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #46
"worst healthcare in the world because it's the best we can do" Doctor_J Nov 2015 #47
Not other, all of our allied democracies. ALL OF THEM!! longship Nov 2015 #52
That's just not true though. France has 30% copays. Germany has private insurance Recursion Nov 2015 #64
You are correct. longship Nov 2015 #66
You're right: they all made holding down provider costs the main part of it Recursion Nov 2015 #67
As usual, we agree. longship Nov 2015 #68
It's not quite that simple in France Kentonio Nov 2015 #71
I can only fit so much on a subject line, but true Recursion Nov 2015 #73
There are certainly some things which the French system excels at Kentonio Nov 2015 #74
So why are *providers* the one part of this nobody will talk about? Recursion Nov 2015 #75
It needs to be talked about. Kentonio Nov 2015 #76
Absolutely agree about the loans Recursion Nov 2015 #78
Um uh because it demonstrably works with Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #53
It's enough tazkcmo Nov 2015 #54
Tell me there, uploopy. 99Forever Nov 2015 #55
I really hope you keep using this line of attack. jeff47 Nov 2015 #56
What of kindergarten analysis is THIS? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #58
Single payer because everyone, regardless of social status, deserves to live. n/t Avalux Nov 2015 #59
Silly. Not because other countries do it. Because the results are better with Medicare for All. merrily Nov 2015 #77
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