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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Thom Hartmann - How Stupid Has the Democratic Party Become? [View all]zeemike
(18,998 posts)81. Well yes I do own them
And I am not ashamed to agree with this...
The core things that make you liberal aren't social issues. They're lie garnish, yea, we agree with them. But they don't pay payments on your car, your utility bills, the rent, save money, send you on vacations, keep you alive and steady between jobs. They aren't a $15 minimum wages, being pro-gay doesn't' create good jobs here in America or levy against trade agreements that deliberately ship whole factories away to third world countries, making unemployment higher, and inevitably dragging already low salaries down further, and increasing the disparity of wealth.
What is shameful to me is that some liberals would shit all over this to continue the status quo on economic issues...which effects 90% of the people gay and strait.
I can only conclude it comes from those in the 10% who like things just the way they are.
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What an out and out fabrication. Any time Thom has given out wrong information is because his source
Cleita
Nov 2015
#49
Bullshit. Vallian Senegal ran for LA Senate in 2014 as a strongly progressive Democrat
Recursion
Nov 2015
#68
Big Money (like Goldman-Sachs) has coopted the leadership of the Democratic Party.
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#10
I disagree. Social issues aren't "minimal". Economic issues are important, but so are social ones.
winter is coming
Nov 2015
#70
You consider making strong political speeches in support of issues to be nothing?
Kentonio
Nov 2015
#77
So that negates the decades of support for gay rights reaching back to the 1970's?
Kentonio
Nov 2015
#79
I will not accept the concept of a moderate Republican equaling a center left Democrat.
Enthusiast
Nov 2015
#24
The Democratic Party is so stupid they are trying to run Bernie Sanders out of the race and
Todays_Illusion
Nov 2015
#14
"Stupid" isn't the right word. Better words & phrases for this phenomenon would be . . .
cer7711
Nov 2015
#39
Louisiana Democrat John Bel Edwards wib running as a pro-life Democrat.
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#54