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ucrdem

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172. Heads up: Sanders apparently did NOT march with MLK Jr. in 1963, or ever.

Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:20 AM

Nov 2015

It turns out that the carefully expressed claim is that he "attended" (Facebook) or "participated in" (NPR) the 1963 March on Washington, or "was in the crowd on the Mall" (Sanders.sentate.gov), meaning that he was somewhere out there in the unverifiable distance:

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/martin-luther-king-jr

But suggesting that Sanders says he marched with King is apparently "swift boating" per post 138 of this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251846817#post138

ps Happy Thanksgiving to all!

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Can we all agree that using dead civil rights leaders to promote your candidate is kinda sick? [View all] Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 OP

Killer Mike's *now viral* speech has really got Camp Hillary upset... reformist2 Nov 2015 #1

Viral! That should really help Bernie in the click polls. DCBob Nov 2015 #5

I would say better click polls than paid-to-win polls. Bubzer Nov 2015 #58

Apparently only a tiny sliver of Hillary supporters know about the internet! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #95

When Sanders pays a polling company to poll his campaign -will you call it a pay to win pollster? riversedge Nov 2015 #112

False equivalence. Bernie doesn't have a history of manipulation and triangulation. hillary does. Bubzer Nov 2015 #135

The "...tradition of MLK..."????????????????? Persondem Nov 2015 #14

Bernie Sanders was arrested in 1963 protesting segregation Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #92

Sanders didn't say it. Killer Mike did. tecelote Nov 2015 #121

But Killer Mike didn't have permission from DUers to say that. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #128

DUers plural? Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #141

Oops. My bad. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #142

She finally weighed in Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #147

Ah, so Killer Mike better watch his back. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #148

"...why wouldn't we all want to carry on in Martin Luther King's tradition?" SMC22307 Nov 2015 #200

+1 tecelote Nov 2015 #122

Yup... SidDithers Nov 2015 #2

Oh, I doubt it. MineralMan Nov 2015 #3

Sure, if that will make you feel better. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #4

Even the right wing insists MLK was a conservative Gman Nov 2015 #6

Good point! yardwork Nov 2015 #180

I interviewed IKE's granddaughter on my show and she said the Eisenhower family has a policy of stevenleser Nov 2015 #7

I would tend to think MLK should have similar thoughts to Rep Lewis nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #10

Please bravenak Nov 2015 #8

"You don’t get to use Martin Luther King Jr. as your “Imaginary Black Yes Man”!!!" Cha Nov 2015 #97

It's pretending he would have endorsed Bernie MaggieD Nov 2015 #9

If someone writes that MLK would have endorsed Hillary Clinton Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #44

Dont hold your breath. Bubzer Nov 2015 #59

Yes, it's ridiculous MaggieD Nov 2015 #63

"Cult of personality is not attractive. I don't understand anyone that worships politicians." BeanMusical Nov 2015 #78

That's the real sickness- right there notadmblnd Nov 2015 #120

Link? Hekate Nov 2015 #88

No one wrote that MLK would have endorsed Hillary Clinton Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #89

How is it sick? jkbRN Nov 2015 #11

All leaders are used as examples...some dead, some alive. Wierd comment,IMO libdem4life Nov 2015 #12

It's desperation. moobu2 Nov 2015 #13

Yes. This thread smacks of desperation. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #15

+1 deutsey Nov 2015 #22

And, pathetic.. "You don’t get to use Martin Luther King Jr. as your “Imaginary Black Yes Man”!!! Cha Nov 2015 #98

If our movement seeks to carry on the mission of Martin Luther King then we should say so with pride Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #16

How desperate are you? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #17

people don't care enough to play your games any more: we have to work to keep the lights on MisterP Nov 2015 #18

A Call Out, Without Being A Call Out... Very Impressive... WillyT Nov 2015 #19

I agree fbc Nov 2015 #20

Be sure to send an email to Killer Mike and let him know how kinda sick he is! nt m-lekktor Nov 2015 #21

I already sent him a link to the OP. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #24

Maybe after seeing the inappropriateness of reading a dead man's mind Sheepshank Nov 2015 #61

Really How does saying "continuing a legacy" read a dead man's mind... Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #62

You mean that guy not even the AA community ever heard of? leftofcool Nov 2015 #106

Do you seriously believe your own lies that you post? TM99 Nov 2015 #125

I have three teens who listen to a lot of music. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #143

Just because your sweet children TM99 Nov 2015 #145

Even the articles written about his endorsement from black people note that he is not well known Number23 Nov 2015 #156

Particularly given the way Black Lives Matter has been treated BainsBane Nov 2015 #23

I've seen pictures of many BLM supporters for Bernie Sanders. ? nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #25

Ya, but. They are mostly under the age of 28 so they don't count. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #27

Wth is the voting age there? polly7 Nov 2015 #28

I'm referring to those who poll voters. Young voters who have never voted before but will Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #32

Oh, sorry. Having a bad day. polly7 Nov 2015 #33

No problem. I realize my post wasn't clear. I hope you have a better day tomorrow. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #57

I think you meant to say by "Hillary"… who Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #26

No BainsBane Nov 2015 #64

And now the people who are harassing Nina Turner and killer Mike. Both are being told are ignorant Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #67

Please show evidence that anyone has harassed Nina Turner or Killer Mike. nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #69

I been waiting for hours for an answer to this. I guess I should stop now Number23 Nov 2015 #158

Equated 1StrongBlackMan to lee atwater.. CT about Soros .. raging @ #BLM Activists.. it's Cha Nov 2015 #101

And I am honored to be targeted by those same folks here stevenleser Nov 2015 #111

"She dismissed activists in Boston. She spoke over them in Atlanta as they were being ushered out." BeanMusical Nov 2015 #139

And she has not released a racial justice platform and declined the BET forum but apparently, Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #165

Yup, that' pathetic. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #186

Pending announcement:This is Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi oasis Nov 2015 #29

LOL..... Punkingal Nov 2015 #51

lol as soon as camp Hillary stops with the "It's over, give up, go home" meme 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #30

By the way, your avatar is so incongruous to your politics it is mind boggling. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #31

I don't think much consideration went into the selection bvf Nov 2015 #36

It's kind of sick, really. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #39

translation - I wish Hillary had been photographed with king instead of Doctor_J Nov 2015 #34

Bwah! You win the thread. kath Nov 2015 #86

Ding. Hissyspit Nov 2015 #105

It is cringe-inducing Jamaal510 Nov 2015 #35

You nailed it, Jamaal. And I swear these people think that none of us have noticed Number23 Nov 2015 #41

"You don’t get to use Martin Luther King Jr. as your “Imaginary Black Yes Man”!!!" Cha Nov 2015 #103

Regarding that link, Jamaal510 Nov 2015 #153

And not only that, but anyone that objects to this desperate, dishonest and ghoulish attempt to Number23 Nov 2015 #155

Oh yeah.. they think it's working. they couldn't be more 180 of what's "working". Cha Nov 2015 #102

You don't come to DU often enough JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #123

I'm here pretty much everyday Jamaal510 Nov 2015 #152

Sounds like you have a problem with people talking history Kalidurga Nov 2015 #37

How about invoking that dead civil right leader named Jesus H.? MadLinguist Nov 2015 #38

That's a great point. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #40

Sure... Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #179

No. It honors people to discuss their values and who shares them. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #42

I'm sure there are still new depths left unplumbed, unfortunately. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #43

LOL... AOR Nov 2015 #66

Don't worry, the sewer site is on its way to reach the earth's core. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #74

? Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #77

You know very well what's going on over there my dear StarryMess. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #79

And I can see quite clearly the hate spewed toward minorities on the rest of the internet Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #80

And I can hear the steam blowing out of your ears. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #83

That isn't what you hear blowing, luv. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #84

Lol! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #87

Good grief, do you have a target on your back or something?? Number23 Nov 2015 #159

I don't know! Could it be love?? Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #160

" I work with teenagers, nothing fazes me." LOL Number23 Nov 2015 #162

Hah! Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #163

LOL! Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #174

:D Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #177

"You don’t get to use Martin Luther King Jr. as your “Imaginary Black Yes Man”!!!" Cha Nov 2015 #99

How many "MLK would have supported Bernie Sanders" threads do we need? - Hiraeth Nov 2015 #45

lmao seriously?!?! this is some serious reaching. hahaha retrowire Nov 2015 #46

Triangulation. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #47

As many threads as it takes. If it bothers you so much, don't read it. YOHABLO Nov 2015 #48

Oh, FFS! electricray Nov 2015 #49

No. No, we absolutely cannot. Everyone, without exception, should aspire to be like MLK! Bubzer Nov 2015 #50

MLK would have supported Bernie Sanders just like Bernie Sanders supported MLK at the JDPriestly Nov 2015 #52

No ... But I think we can agree that twisting the legacy of any civil rights leader ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #53

So, Killer Mike is kind of sick? Lot's of white Hillary supporters have been telling him similar Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #55

Not getting to the veracity of KM's statement ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #119

"Dead civil rights leader?" Is that all he is to you? senz Nov 2015 #54

Apparently, he has no living legacy to any of us. Each movement must be born in a bubble. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #56

I remember him. He inspired an entire people to insist, senz Nov 2015 #60

Is there evidence that Sanders marched with MLK Jr. in August 1963? ucrdem Nov 2015 #65

He never said he "marched with King" not once ever. He said he went to the March on Washington. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #70

He says it right here: ucrdem Nov 2015 #189

Really? I'm not a fucking idiot. You posted a still from a video that was NOT produced by Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #190

Surrogates are part of the campaign. nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #191

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #193

There's no plausible deniability here, sorry. nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #195

So, what you are saying is that Bernie secretly arranged with "African Americans for Bernie" to Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #196

Ah, HC supporters and their new birther scandal. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #108

Sanders himself says he was "way way back there" in the distance. ucrdem Nov 2015 #129

ZOMG it's BERNGHAZI!!! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #130

+1000 BeanMusical Nov 2015 #132

They're becoming unhinged. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #134

You're absolutely right. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #137

In another post that person claimed that Bernie said he marched with King: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #138

Yes, I saw that. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #140

Claiming that Bernie marched with King is "swift boating"? ucrdem Nov 2015 #170

Implying that he lied about his participation in the movement is swift boating. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #175

What participation? And Kerry was not a spectator pretending he served; he DID serve. ucrdem Nov 2015 #176

Not playing your game. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #178

Just letting you know, U. of Chicago has already debunked the Bruce Rappaport link Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #133

The archive ID is what's being called into question by alumni: ucrdem Nov 2015 #136

It's how they roll. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #68

So, Civil rights activist Killer Mike is sick? Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #71

He also says he's "pretty conservative" ucrdem Nov 2015 #72

Aw. So he is SICK! Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #73

Your words. nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #76

As are many AA voters... SMC22307 Nov 2015 #203

Who's "we"? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #75

That poster probably thought that they were posting in the Clinton Group. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #81

No. delrem Nov 2015 #82

Agreed. Good lord n butter, as Opus would say. nt Hekate Nov 2015 #85

What an embarrassing display of surrogate envy. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #90

Given the subject matter ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #91

Killer Mike didn't speak for the dead. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #93

I'm not talking about Killer Mike ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #154

"You don’t get to use Martin Luther King Jr. as your “Imaginary Black Yes Man”!!!" Cha Nov 2015 #100

I've never written that MLK would endorse a certain candidate Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #161

No, it isn't AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #94

"You don’t get to use Martin Luther King Jr. as your “Imaginary Black Yes Man”!!!" Cha Nov 2015 #96

Not really, no. Hissyspit Nov 2015 #104

Seven days after Dylan Roof ... Tortmaster Nov 2015 #107

Obama talked about guns after Sandy Hook: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #109

Context matters. Tortmaster Nov 2015 #113

Both discussed the difference between rural and urban gun use after tragedies. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #114

Senator Sanders made his remarks the day ... Tortmaster Nov 2015 #115

He was asked about gun control - which he has always supported. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #116

You are right. The Republicans, each and every one of them, are worse than Senator ... Tortmaster Nov 2015 #164

He has more empathy and grace than your candidate: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #166

The jig's up. Tortmaster Nov 2015 #168

Since when has Bernie's pro-gun control stance made gun control harder? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #173

For 'tact and grace' please read 'Isn't all shiny and media polished like we expect' Kentonio Nov 2015 #181

I disagree. Tortmaster Nov 2015 #187

Oh please Kentonio Nov 2015 #188

Ideally: none. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #110

Aw, come on, MLK would have loved Bernie's Brady Bill votes. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #117

No, I don't think it's "kinda sick." Hortensis Nov 2015 #118

I agree n/t JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #124

It's not sick. It's inconvenient for Bernie haters. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #126

Sick or desperate? BootinUp Nov 2015 #127

It shows how far back Bernie has to go treestar Nov 2015 #131

Bernie Sanders has been supporting Civil Rights since 1963. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #150

It's pathetic and desperate. eom lunamagica Nov 2015 #144

No. I don't agree. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #146

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #149

I had never heard of Killer Mike before but his speech moved me to tears. NowSam Nov 2015 #151

That speech was great Mnpaul Nov 2015 #167

The truth spoken is very inconvenient and troubling for some NowSam Nov 2015 #169

Not just no... 99Forever Nov 2015 #157

Yeah Clinton should be ashamed of herself...right? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #171

Heads up: Sanders apparently did NOT march with MLK Jr. in 1963, or ever. ucrdem Nov 2015 #172

He never claimed he did. Continuing to suggest that Sanders SAID HE DID, is one big giant fat lie. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #194

Read it again. nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #197

Did anybody else first read that as "using UNDEAD civil rights leaders"? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #182

It shouldn't happen, but if you want it to stop, it needs to be admitted Ken Burch Nov 2015 #183

Can we all agree that using MLK to slam your allies is kinda sick? Autumn Nov 2015 #184

Hmmm . . . I kind of remember a certain person telling the world she talked to Vinca Nov 2015 #185

Hillary supporters are fleeing MLKs legacy AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #192

Hillary supporters aren't making these claims. ucrdem Nov 2015 #198

Hillary supporters are flummoxed by MLKs legacy AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #199

Please forgive us for discussing Bernie's deep and long-held passion for racial justice senz Nov 2015 #201

MLK, Mandela, Gandhi, JFK, FDR, the list goes on. . . enid602 Nov 2015 #202

They have no idea who MLK would have supported and from what I've read.. it's offensive Cha Nov 2015 #204

Absolutely! Dr. Strange Dec 2015 #205

I'm glad Bernie is recuperating. Had he mentioned her name Autumn Dec 2015 #206

Oops. There goes that meme. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #207

Another one bites the dust Autumn Dec 2015 #208

LOL !!! - I See What You Did There !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #209

Bwa ha ha! nt Bonobo Dec 2015 #211

Bwhahaha.... Segami Dec 2015 #212

Now that Hillary added it to her logo, those who recced this thread no longer agree jfern Dec 2015 #210

Selective outrage for some Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #215

I'm happy to K&R again. Because apparently a small band of people somehow completely missed Number23 Dec 2015 #213

Yep. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #214