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peacebird

(14,195 posts)
55. Bernie Sanders refreshingly SANE foreign policy
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:18 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/bernie_sanderss_refreshingly_sane_foreign_policy/

The part about not doing it alone is critical. To begin with, unlike most candidates, Sanders concedes that we’ve being going it alone for decades now, with disastrous results.

“Our response must begin with an understanding of past mistakes and missteps in our previous approaches to foreign policy. It begins with the acknowledgement that unilateral military action should be a last resort…and that ill-conceived military decisions, such as the invasion of Iraq, can wreak far-reaching devastation and destabilize entire regions for decades. It begins with the reflection that the failed policy decisions of the past – rushing to war, regime change in Iraq, or toppling Mossadegh in Iran in 1953, or Guatemalan President Arbenz in 1954, Brazilian President Goulart in 1964, Chilean President Allende in 1973. These are the sort of policies that do not work, do not make us safer, and must not be repeated.”

It’s astonishing how many candidates on the Right in particular simply refuse to acknowledge that our previous encroachments around the world have done more harm than good (For example, our invasion of Iraq created the vacuum into which ISIS inserted itself).
Somebody... 99Forever Nov 2015 #1
To be fair, Hillary is a war monger. morningfog Nov 2015 #2
Let's be fair, Sanders has voted more times for military action than Hillary has, Sanders is a war Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #3
He didn't vote for disaster , IWR bahrbearian Nov 2015 #6
He voted to fund the Iraq war the same day he voted against the AUMF ucrdem Nov 2015 #9
Don't confuse them with facts MaggieD Nov 2015 #13
voting to defund troops in the field is reprehensible restorefreedom Nov 2015 #26
Why do you lie and smear Hillary by calling her a warmonger? Vattel Nov 2015 #12
The lack of foreign affairs ability was very oblivious in the last debate, yes, Hillary is very Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #4
More War Drums Please bahrbearian Nov 2015 #7
Your comment does not cover the fact Sanders does not have Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #15
I much prefer that than to Hillary's "experience." morningfog Nov 2015 #19
I don't, Sanders has been voting to take military action and he does not Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #23
If Bernie doesn't know what he's voting for or against RichVRichV Nov 2015 #60
The same way I can see Bernie's lies when he voted five times against the Brady Bill. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #63
And here I thought we were talking foreign policy. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #64
Sanders is terrible on foreign policy, he blew the first question in the last debate, he was Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #65
You do realize those were opening remarks right? RichVRichV Nov 2015 #66
Sanders also riversedge Nov 2015 #29
Bill Clinton, George Bush, Reagan, Obama, all had less experience than Sanders. Crystalite Nov 2015 #72
The only President elected in the past 40 years who had foreign policy experience Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #73
That's a good thing. Better than having the experience of being wrong on foreign policy so often n/ eridani Nov 2015 #44
So say you, Sanders has been making decisions for twenty five years without Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #47
Voting no on the Iraq war shows a pretty comprehensive grasp of foreign policy. Unlike others. n/t eridani Nov 2015 #75
Yes he grasp on it when he voted the same day to fund the war, more for the defense Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #81
And you are against taking care of American soldiers after deployment? eridani Nov 2015 #82
No, she did not make the decision to put them in harm's, that was Bush's decision. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #83
And she knew that Bush would invade--assuming that she is as smart as every objector to the war-- eridani Nov 2015 #84
Just as I can't say what you are thinking the same applies to others. Bush made the decision. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #85
You can't vote against part of a bill. Maybe Clinton has come out against the F-35? eridani Nov 2015 #86
Did you see the cost of the F-35 so far? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #87
Ask yourself silenttigersong Nov 2015 #24
This is a question for President Barack Obama, Hillary served at the request of the president. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #34
It was indeed oblivious. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #45
Must correct you on something. Bernie was speaking out for black lives before BLM aikoaiko Nov 2015 #5
Bernie is at once ahead of his time and representative of core Democratic values of the past. Crystalite Nov 2015 #70
Bernie's Foreign Policy Lans Nov 2015 #8
He is saying this without foreign policy experience, this would be a statement made Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #18
I've not provided any statement Lans Nov 2015 #30
Did you post #8? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #32
LOL! They've moved on to something more stupid- Hillary is no longer Bill Clinton II KittyWampus Nov 2015 #10
Wasn't that just the most absurd thing? Are they still doing it? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #11
Libya, Syria, the reset with Russia, Honduras... Hillary foreign policy experience was awful! 4139 Nov 2015 #14
She has foreign affairs experience, Sanders does not have a foreign affairs policy Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #22
A conservative with a plan trumps a liberal because you say he doesn't have a plan. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #16
No one's making up anything about Hillary ibegurpard Nov 2015 #17
Why do you support a war monger? Broward Nov 2015 #20
I don't know about all the other folks you're talking about. lovemydog Nov 2015 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #25
just to keep things honest restorefreedom Nov 2015 #27
Honest, I like honest. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #33
ok lets take these one by one restorefreedom Nov 2015 #37
Sanders on foreign policy. TM99 Nov 2015 #28
He does seem to lack the dexterity needed to be Prez. Alfresco Nov 2015 #31
He's completely clueless in this area. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #56
A clueless person knew Bush was lying us into a war with Iraq. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #62
Hillaryspeak = Bernie has no foreign policy and doesn't get the Black vote Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #35
I do not even have to argue this one anymore. End of November and Sanders went nowhere in the race. seabeyond Nov 2015 #36
So that means we can look forward ibegurpard Nov 2015 #39
Nope. You will have to get me five hides, again. Sigh..... ah well, that damn freedom of speech. seabeyond Nov 2015 #42
You get yourself your own hides by being directly rude to people. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #46
Not really. seabeyond Nov 2015 #48
So you think you are perfectly civil and it is all a giant conspiracy to get you timeouts? Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #50
Who is trying to start up something here, and who is enjoying a thread on cameras....? seabeyond Nov 2015 #57
um uh, you? Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #61
Ive noticed that the defense of Hillary's lack of any concrete domestic policy is to make up Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #38
snicker. Hiraeth Nov 2015 #40
"We came, we saw, he DIED." You can't make up shit like that. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #41
A peek into her very warped psyche. nt Bonobo Nov 2015 #43
How much foreign policy experience did Obama have? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #49
Like when he was the only member of our Govt to vote against the escalation of war or when orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #51
Bernie on ISIS peacebird Nov 2015 #52
Bernie on Iraq peacebird Nov 2015 #53
Bernie on Iran peacebird Nov 2015 #54
Bernie Sanders refreshingly SANE foreign policy peacebird Nov 2015 #55
He'll say ANYTHING to get elected. I don't trust him. He'll change in office. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #58
Nope, he is consistent. Hillary is the weathervane in this election. peacebird Nov 2015 #59
I'll never believe a word he says. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #67
Your perogative, but he has been consitent. Hillary 'evolves' with the polls, & has reverted right peacebird Nov 2015 #68
His anger turns me off. I can't trust someone who has a short fuse. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #69
True. bravenak Nov 2015 #71
Nope, blatantly false. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #78
He did it when discussing the sanitation workers strike. bravenak Nov 2015 #79
Pray tell? (and a link would be nice) nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #80
Project much? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #77
For the people that are against the lack of domestic policy Hillary Clinton has... this post. Aerows Nov 2015 #74
Hillary said 9/11 made her take the Wall Street money jfern Nov 2015 #76
So you can easily list Sanders policy proposals AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #88
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