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kurt_cagle

(534 posts)
38. Absolutely Agreed
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 06:23 PM
Sep 2012

I think this should be broadcast widely.

The Republicans want kings. Scratch a Republican and you will find a Royalist - someone who believes that the President has absolute power (or at any rate can be controlled by kingmakers to exercise absolute power on someone else's behalf). Aristocracies generally like this kind of structure, because it makes it possible for decisions to be made that generally benefit only the aristocracy, usually at the expense of the peasantry and the mercantile class. It's ironic given that the Republicans essentially started out as mercantilists, who have traditionally been the yeoman middle class, but not all that surprising.

I think most Democrats actually prefer a weaker president, one who does not have absolute powers, even in times like now when we could wish that we had control of the House back. They prefer distributed power, believe that checks on authority keep people honest and root out corruption, and that informed debate actually improves the quality of legislation. They believe in the power of government, but also believe that government needs to constantly police itself lest it become captured by one or another constituency, and that the role of the electorate is to watch the watchman.

Democracy is a messy process, it can move slowly, and it can be frustrating for those who want direct, rapid action to happen. But there is a reason why the legislature is called a deliberating body, and why the president isn't all powerful.

the Obama voters leaving him is a Right Wing Media myth. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #1
or maybe central scrutinizer Sep 2012 #2
or maybe frazzled Sep 2012 #4
Aleady caught some of them. freshwest Sep 2012 #7
I wonder how many people actually speculate in any detail about exactly how things get done. patrice Sep 2012 #3
Thank you for teaching civics. Presidents have limited powers and the House controls the purse. JRLeft Sep 2012 #5
This puts everyone in a difficult situation when we try to do as we really should and talk to patrice Sep 2012 #8
+1,000 freshwest Sep 2012 #9
Absolutely Agreed kurt_cagle Sep 2012 #38
Yep. Some of those who scream loudest about "Freedom" are actually absolutists and/or ideologues. patrice Sep 2012 #40
Because CheapShotArtist Sep 2012 #6
Yes, we are on the correct path! freshwest Sep 2012 #10
Because Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2012 #11
"Breaking up," huh? Did we have an affair? I don't think so. Just more lies. freshwest Sep 2012 #12
Yeah, isn't that a weird way to put it? whathehell Sep 2012 #26
Fits to the juvenile middle school or elementary school level of the right. Immature bullies. freshwest Sep 2012 #29
Who in their right mind leaves an intelligent caring man for a robotic unfeeling jerk? Jennicut Sep 2012 #13
But what if this isn’t how they see things? neeksgeek Sep 2012 #14
I would love to dump Obama dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #15
Well said SilveryMoon Sep 2012 #16
Thanks dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #17
You couldn't primary him because Democrats don't think like you... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #19
BRAVO!! babylonsister Sep 2012 #21
In time I have come to see that your point of view is correct johnlucas Sep 2012 #22
Excellent! broiles Sep 2012 #27
Reality speaks-thank you nt Progressive dog Sep 2012 #28
Wise words you write my friend riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #30
DI, may I buy you one? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #34
Definitely kurt_cagle Sep 2012 #41
No, because all of the money said to not primary him dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #42
I have facts on my side... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #43
You completely miss what's happening dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #44
Those "conversions" are fake, IMHO. I talk to Dems daily, and never once have I heard one..... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #18
Thing is, you're always going to find 'conversions' every election cycle... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #20
The national debt never makes it into any conversations I have with people Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #25
I'm sure it may come up in some circles, but I've never heard anyone in my family, or.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #33
Whoever shifts so easily from Obama to Romney Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #35
"He made it worse" is simply false treestar Sep 2012 #23
Show of hands: JoeyT Sep 2012 #24
I often wondered why Mitt Romney supporters don't leave him? UCmeNdc Sep 2012 #31
They don't really like Romney. Nobody really does Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #37
It is very simple. The republicans have said they want to dismantle social security and medicare. still_one Sep 2012 #32
Because people don't have those sort of relationships with their politicians? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #36
Any thinking person knows it is much better to have a reasoning right-of-center moderate rather indepat Sep 2012 #39
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