2016 Postmortem

MohRokTah

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68. They definitely had the access during the 40 minute window.

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:41 AM

Dec 2015

The difference is, all logs show that only one campaign accessed the data and stole it.

The Clinton campaign did nothing during that 40 minute window, unlike the Sanders campaign.

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Does anyone here actually believe that DNClinton does not have full access rights to Sanders' data? [View all] mhatrw Dec 2015 OP

Knowing what I know about software, I bet all 3 campaigns had cross access to all data for that time phleshdef Dec 2015 #1

It was all trackable so if anyone ever accesses anything there's a record. moobu2 Dec 2015 #6

Bernie doesn't NEED to lie about anything. phleshdef Dec 2015 #13

Not if you use the chance to acess and copy my very expensive personal information moobu2 Dec 2015 #22

I guarantee if your emails showed up in my inbox and I read them, you couldn't do anything to me. phleshdef Dec 2015 #29

That's not the analogy... brooklynite Dec 2015 #50

from what I understand d_r Dec 2015 #60

For one, I'm not just making an analogy, I'm explaining exactly the logical thing that happened. phleshdef Dec 2015 #61

No... Agschmid Dec 2015 #27

But who controls the access??? UglyGreed Dec 2015 #19

.... questionseverything Dec 2015 #23

Winner, winner UglyGreed Dec 2015 #24

Nothing to see here Mnpaul Dec 2015 #70

Yeah lets check the trail Bernies workinclasszero Dec 2015 #28

You know nothing about software. Nothing is "trackable" when you have root permission. nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #41

This long-time IT veteran says you're exactly correct. Scuba Dec 2015 #66

And who has the tracking log? N/t DVRacer Dec 2015 #73

The DWS/DNC/Hillary Camp is one and the same NowSam Dec 2015 #2

All access to the data is trackable so no Hillary does not have access. moobu2 Dec 2015 #3

Tracked by whom? arcane1 Dec 2015 #5

Well exactly Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #67

when the founder of the 3rd party vendor was Clinton's 2008 IT director? Jarqui Dec 2015 #10

Wasn't this also the firm that was responsible for Clinton's private email? EndElectoral Dec 2015 #16

Holy moly! Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #69

You don't actually know that, because a complete audit has not been run. jeff47 Dec 2015 #12

You don't understand the difference between having access and using access apparently. phleshdef Dec 2015 #14

You know nothing about software. Nothing is "trackable" when you have root permission. nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #40

Just make it up as you go. Not a bit to back up what you say. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #4

DWS/DNC works for Clinton. The vendor hired by DWS/DNC worked for Clinton. mhatrw Dec 2015 #42

Keeps getting better and better. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #48

Endorsements matter? As in corporate and establishment insiders who are willing to cheat and lie? mhatrw Dec 2015 #59

Are your WMDs right next to your massive tinfoil supply? Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #7

Is that what Hillary said when she voted to invade Iraq? nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #44

Great snark! +1 n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #64

They all had access... Happenstance24 Dec 2015 #8

^^^ This. Though "stolen" is not an accurate term. phleshdef Dec 2015 #15

Would someone who wanted to steal data always tell they were taking data? We need an audit. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #20

I've gotten into the habit of putting low-post-count posters who show up to bash Sanders Maedhros Dec 2015 #43

Creating for divisiveness on DU. Not needed. riversedge Dec 2015 #9

Just because the vendor is owned by someone who's worked closely with the Clintons jeff47 Dec 2015 #11

Vendor works on most campaigns, even Obama's. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #21

.... questionseverything Dec 2015 #26

The vendor is Clinton's go to IT person. nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #46

Tin Foil hats all around! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #32

Conspiracy! DanTex Dec 2015 #17

Yes, I believe Hillary is running a great campaign. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #18

Of course they did and they had it in October when Bernie's campaign alerted the DNC. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #25

got proof of that? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #31

Just logic, if the firewall is down it goes both ways Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #35

that won't hold water dude..its theoretical VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #36

The question in the OP was "access" not download, don't be moving the goal posts. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #37

Now its about Downloading them huh? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #56

Did you not read your own post #36, you used the term "downloading" that's what I was Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #57

Yes...if you open a document on your computer... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #58

Accessing it....and downloading and saving it.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #30

... SidDithers Dec 2015 #33

EXACTLY! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #34

This is getting more and more entertaining treestar Dec 2015 #39

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Dec 2015 #38

Well, of course we're going to believe whatever assists us in rationalizing LanternWaste Dec 2015 #45

TOS: Don't go overboard with the crazy talk. brooklynite Dec 2015 #47

Yes, but this is Bernie Underground Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #52

We have two camps on this thread. People who know a duck when they see it walk & hear it quack mhatrw Dec 2015 #49

Does anyone not believe that Sander's campaign just got caught stealing data? nt Nitram Dec 2015 #51

You can see that it's an almost 50/50 split Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #53

Which means 50% accept the facts and 50% are in denial. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #54

Pretty much Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #55

I just posted an OP with some details regarding this if anyones interested. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #62

Give us a link, please. mhatrw Dec 2015 #65

I have NO doubt that DWS would do ANYTHING or HRC's coronation. n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #63

They definitely had the access during the 40 minute window. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #68

Don't you usually need evidence before you make big claims, or even little claims? BlueCheese Dec 2015 #71

LOL. A Clinton staffer wrote the program and has full unfettered access to the database! nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #72