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23. Leading to the follow up question; Who has ever won major office with such bad negative numbers?*
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:04 PM
Dec 2015

The current (December 2, 2015) Quinnipiac poll:

December 2, 2015 - Bump For Trump As Carson Fades In Republican Race, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Clinton, Sanders Surge In Matchups With GOP Leaders
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Eleven months before the 2016 presidential election, Donald Trump is the undisputed leader in the Republican field, as Dr. Ben Carson, in a virtual tie with Trump four weeks ago, drops to third place, according to a Quinnipiac University National poll released today.

On the Democratic side, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton widens her lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont to 60 - 30 percent, compared to 53 - 35 percent in a November 4 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley has 2 percent, with 6 percent undecided.

Trump gets 27 percent of Republican voters today, with 17 percent for Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, 16 percent each for Carson and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and 5 percent for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. No other candidate tops 3 percent, with 8 percent undecided.

Last month, Trump had 24 percent, with 23 percent for Carson.

Among Republicans, 26 percent of voters say they "would definitely not support" Trump, with 21 percent who would not back Bush.

"It doesn't seem to matter what he says or who he offends, whether the facts are contested or the 'political correctness' is challenged, Donald Trump seems to be wearing Kevlar," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Dr. Ben Carson, moving to center stage just one month ago, now needs some CPR. The Doctor sinks. The Donald soars. The GOP, 11 months from the election, has to be thinking, 'This could be the guy.'

"Secretary Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders have to be hoping Trump is the GOP's guy."

American voters shift to Clinton as the Democrat gains ground against Republicans:

47 - 41 percent over Trump, compared to 46 - 43 percent November 4;
Clinton at 45 percent to Rubio's 44 percent, compared to a 46 - 41 percent Rubio lead last month;
Clinton tops Cruz 47 - 42 percent, compared to Cruz at 46 percent to Clinton's 43 percent last month;
Clinton at 46 percent to Carson's 43 percent compared to Carson's 50 - 40 percent lead last month.

Sanders does just as well, or even better, against top Republicans:

Topping Trump 49 - 41 percent;
Getting 44 percent to Rubio's 43 percent;
Beating Cruz 49 - 39 percent;
Leading Carson 47 - 41 percent.

Clinton has a negative 44 - 51 percent favorability rating. Other favorability ratings are:

Negative 35 - 57 percent for Trump;
40 - 33 percent for Carson;
44 - 31 percent for Sanders;
37 - 28 percent for Rubio;
33 - 33 percent for Cruz.

American voters say 60 - 36 percent that Clinton is not honest and trustworthy. Trump is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 59 - 35 percent. Sanders gets the best honesty grades among top candidates, 59 - 28 percent, with Carson at 53 - 34 percent, Rubio at 49 - 33 percent and Cruz at 43 - 39 percent.


More people polled as seeing Clinton as being "not honest and trustworthy" than did so for Trump.

Trump, and the Republicans, have spent diddly so far on reinforcing that message. I'd prefer taking my chances on them trying to convince Democrats to stay home, and Independents to vote for their lunatic platform, because the Democrats were running a wild eyed Socialist, rather than taking my chances on millions of people coming out and voting for someone they saw as "not honest and trustworthy".

*Seriously, when will a journalist do the research and present the list? I'd like to see the names of those winners.
Exactly. If you're going to win and convinced about it, why not graciousness, why not more debates? highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #1
"Clinton is running as though the race were very close..." restorefreedom Dec 2015 #2
Her internal polling must show Bernie winning NH and Iowa BIG - Divernan Dec 2015 #10
yes. even the m$m polls can't hide it much more restorefreedom Dec 2015 #12
Nah. That's just the way Hillary rolls. rogerashton Dec 2015 #26
This is not a red v blue fight yet Rebkeh Dec 2015 #34
She needs progressives ... Jackilope Dec 2015 #43
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #3
Just what I've been wondering cali Dec 2015 #4
She has seen this movie before.....and she wants a different ending this time virtualobserver Dec 2015 #14
She wants it desperately. 840high Dec 2015 #29
Extremely! loyalsister Dec 2015 #64
"Clinton is running as though the race were very close" Matariki Dec 2015 #5
She is scared of Sanders AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #6
They're ALL scared of Sanders. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #11
Please try to adhere more closely to the 4 paragraph quote guideline. pnwmom Dec 2015 #7
I've noticed many exceeding the 4 paragraph limit lately, including Divernan Dec 2015 #13
You should point it out to them then. No one should be doing it. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #15
There are hosts and juries and admins. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #68
A perfect demonstration of disproving your premise that Clinton is ahead 30 points Proserpina Dec 2015 #8
Yeahup..... daleanime Dec 2015 #16
It's a risk to us all. mmonk Dec 2015 #9
"Corruption at the organization (DNC) is notorious" Divernan Dec 2015 #17
Debbie's having a 2008 flashback. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #18
Winning ugly- like stealing Clinton's data? And then blaming HER for it? KittyWampus Dec 2015 #19
Reading comprehension is your friend. KamaAina Dec 2015 #24
Bullshit. If the staffer was only documenting it, why did he erase his notes? SunSeeker Dec 2015 #25
To document it. jeff47 Dec 2015 #32
Why delete notes to "document" anything? Why run 24 searches? SunSeeker Dec 2015 #45
So no one else could hack into it.Bernie is honest bjobotts Dec 2015 #52
Him suggesting someone did --with NO evidence--is just pure deflection. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #59
"Documenting" for 40 minutes!? really?! uponit7771 Dec 2015 #49
How about like breaking your contract with a campaign, as the DNC did? (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #33
He stole no data.He alerted server.DWS lied. bjobotts Dec 2015 #51
He stole. The one that stole is lying. seabeyond Dec 2015 #56
600k a day the volunteers... Democratic volunteers gave? Damn straight. Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #55
HRC's fundraising is on a downward trajectory. Divernan Dec 2015 #20
Thanks for reminding me. I just donated to her again. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #27
Her limited donor pool is almost maxed out. The Boss Dec 2015 #38
Her latest pitch? Send me a dollar. . . .or $100,000 Divernan Dec 2015 #41
When her idea of a "Middle Class" income is $250,000 per annum..... wolfie001 Dec 2015 #42
In L.A. and N.Y., $250k is still middle class. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #46
Please. How much do two teacher couples make in LA, NY & SF? nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #47
$125,000 each seems a bit high wolfie001 Dec 2015 #48
Your post reminds me of an old Russian joke. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #60
Not really a joke wolfie001 Dec 2015 #63
People making 125k a year in salary pay a much higher percentage in taxes than the rich. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #66
I'm not attacking anyone. wolfie001 Dec 2015 #70
Yes, you are attacking middle class working professionals, who already pay the highest tax rate. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #71
Not $125k. What is your point? SunSeeker Dec 2015 #61
If both are working (teaching presumably) wolfie001 Dec 2015 #62
That would be more like tenured college professors. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #65
NYC starting base pay 49,908 tops out at 105,142. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #69
Imagine - Hillary call center workers SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #21
Winning ugly is dangerous but Nyan Dec 2015 #22
Leading to the follow up question; Who has ever won major office with such bad negative numbers?* Babel_17 Dec 2015 #23
According to some people here Bernie's donor list is fair game for Hillary. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #28
Be any means necessary. Second verse (2016) same as the first (2008). AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #30
Interesting photo Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #31
Yes, that's the real her. Divernan Dec 2015 #35
The 5 stages of Sanders' camp grief Tarc Dec 2015 #36
Clinton supporters are perpetually stuck at #1 The Boss Dec 2015 #39
It's hard to be stuck in denial Tarc Dec 2015 #40
They're dismissing the polls, or is that anger? uponit7771 Dec 2015 #50
Coasting along is not going to be enough for Clinton. nt thereismore Dec 2015 #37
Yeah but the article isn't scientific mindwalker_i Dec 2015 #44
Lmfao at the title alone. Coronation. She's losing. She has to win all, and big to be legit. Don't seabeyond Dec 2015 #53
I read a little more besides the title. Hush up little women, sit, be quiet... Humble, by gosh. seabeyond Dec 2015 #54
on the micro level that is exactly what we see here on this forum Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #57
Hillary has developed a strong campaign group, she is working hard Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #58
Yes indeed! SunSeeker Dec 2015 #67
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