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Divernan

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65. Those cluster bombs remain after the wars end! Duh!

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 06:16 PM

Dec 2015

And I think it's a TERRIFIC hill - None - Not a single one - of HRC's supporters have ever been able to offer a defense of her pro cluster bomb vote.

Nor has the self-proclaimed, alleged lifelong champion of women and children, ever offered a word of apology or explanation of it.

Here's the reality - and don't you dare forget it!

“Shrapnel peppered their bodies. Blackened the skin. Smashed heads. Tore limbs. A doctor reports that ‘all the injuries you see were caused by cluster bombs. The majority of the victims were children who died because they were outside.’”

Even after wars subside, after treaties are signed, after belligerents return home, cluster bombs wreak havoc on civilian life., only to become landmines that later explode on playgrounds and farmlands. Children are drawn to cluster bomb canisters, the deadly duds that look like beer cans or toys before they explode.

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-18/article/29503

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Woman who supports torture and the death penalty calls for more kindness. [View all] Scuba Dec 2015 OP

I'm sure you've exhibited the sam hostility to President Obama? brooklynite Dec 2015 #1

Of course. baldguy Dec 2015 #4

I caucused and voted for President Obama. PotatoChip Dec 2015 #5

Prevailing opinion is that lately Obama is no better than a Republican. baldguy Dec 2015 #7

TPP. It's a biggie. jalan48 Dec 2015 #10

I agree. That particular issue is/was the last straw for me. PotatoChip Dec 2015 #19

TIPP - another biggie. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #50

What the heck does that meme have to do with Bernie? Nothing!!! Live and Learn Dec 2015 #15

It is the rhetoric of (false) dichotomy. zeemike Dec 2015 #24

I am completely fed up with the swooner mentality Skittles Dec 2015 #73

It's kind of scary to me. zeemike Dec 2015 #75

THANK YOU Skittles Dec 2015 #77

He certainly appointed enough of them and seems to agree with them on a lot of issues. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #53

He is a moderate Republican. cui bono Dec 2015 #72

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #93

Hey bald guy... if you peek in here, here's a response to you: cui bono Dec 2015 #103

The man said so himself. malthaussen Dec 2015 #97

The Policies of The Candidate Are The Issue, NOT The Color of Their Skin Or Their Gender CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #8

falling back on color and gender when you have no argument against torture WHICH IS A WAR CRIME roguevalley Dec 2015 #11

Torture is absolutely a war crime. JEB Dec 2015 #13

Plus a bazillion! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #38

Would a President Fiorina be a lurch to the right? Broward Dec 2015 #27

Tu Quoque argument equals FAIL!! Scuba Dec 2015 #36

black man in the office followed by a grandmother AlbertCat Dec 2015 #30

Yeah catnhatnh Dec 2015 #33

If the goal is a woman in the White House, lets go for Sarah Palin. Hoppy Dec 2015 #35

Because Hillary Clinton is exactly like Sarah Palin. baldguy Dec 2015 #94

The point is that valuing a candidate based on sex, race or religion is not getting us anywhere. Hoppy Dec 2015 #98

Three minutes to get the first reply. But you did't mention that you support HRC's stand rhett o rick Dec 2015 #17

Tough on crime image. Tough on terrorists image. What else would you want? Enthusiast Dec 2015 #39

Values over evrything else tazkcmo Dec 2015 #82

Who's Sam? AlbertCat Dec 2015 #29

So no well reasoned rebuttal? blackspade Dec 2015 #96

I hate the primaries - they bring out the absolute worst of DU. hack89 Dec 2015 #2

pointing out her murderous tendencies are the worst? roguevalley Dec 2015 #12

We would rather you didn't mention it. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #40

murderous tendencies? treestar Dec 2015 #52

Beat me to it, treestar SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #80

The trouble is, murielm99 Dec 2015 #84

If you said similar things about Bernie, you'd have no historical record to back them up. Scuba Dec 2015 #89

You have any facts to back that up? treestar Dec 2015 #99

Sure ... Scuba Dec 2015 #100

It looks like we stumbled into freeperville. murielm99 Dec 2015 #83

I am reminded of what used to be said many years ago: If we had a woman president there Cal33 Dec 2015 #60

We came! we saw! he died! :satisfied laughter: Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #78

What a psycho. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #86

I'll never forget that. 840high Dec 2015 #87

It's the first time I've ever seen and heard this. Didn't know this about her. Not Cal33 Dec 2015 #92

This one is particularly bad because we are fighting to wrest the control of OUR Party from rhett o rick Dec 2015 #18

More than that, Corporate Power is the main cause of most of our problems in the Cal33 Dec 2015 #61

well said nt grasswire Dec 2015 #79

The corporate wing of the Party wouldn't exist without votes. Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #85

Pointing out facts is bad? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #21

Both sides do it? truebluegreen Dec 2015 #81

No kidding Dem2 Dec 2015 #102

Also believes that bombing raids which kill innocent civilians farleftlib Dec 2015 #3

Yes. tecelote Dec 2015 #9

Yes, Obama pointed up her torture stance in the 2008 primary as well. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #6

We know now that those who torture . . FairWinds Dec 2015 #14

Huge +1! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #41

...+1 840high Dec 2015 #88

Ditto to the hypocrisy... SoapBox Dec 2015 #16

Most of civilized countries worldwide have abolished the death penalty darkangel218 Dec 2015 #20

At least your kitty is nice. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #42

What is that supposed to mean? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #44

The death penalty was abolished from our country for about 14 years, until the Cal33 Dec 2015 #63

She's A-OK with cluster-bombing civilians Divernan Dec 2015 #22

Bernie Sanders was on the right side of that vote. As usual. pa28 Dec 2015 #34

Thank you, I had forgotten about that...... peacebird Dec 2015 #51

Grammy Hillary gives the worst toys! Divernan Dec 2015 #55

That made me laugh. I must be one sick bastard. Scuba Dec 2015 #69

This. I've never forgotten that. Morally depraved (n/t) bread_and_roses Dec 2015 #95

Awe, did Santa leave you coal? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #23

Left me some Old Codger Dec 2015 #28

If one turned into bernie ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #32

cannot debate, so must use fairy tale to counter. artislife Dec 2015 #45

Hyperbole is a weak debate tactic. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #59

I would suggest you look up the big word you just used. artislife Dec 2015 #71

She also supporlts photo ops and platitudes. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #25

And Black Ops: We Came, We Saw, He died! Yuck, yuck, snarf.! Divernan Dec 2015 #56

The Pot Calling The Kettle Black cantbeserious Dec 2015 #26

And "regime change" SHRED Dec 2015 #31

This says a lot about the current state of the Democratic Party. Scruffy1 Dec 2015 #37

Even on race and gender the "establishment" Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #70

K&R CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #43

I about choked on that one too madokie Dec 2015 #46

She's kept an enemies/revenge list for DECADES! Divernan Dec 2015 #47

Breaking news! Hill publicly burns her enemies/revenge list at posh fundraiser. Divernan Dec 2015 #49

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #48

Torture? treestar Dec 2015 #54

The subject is practicing kindness toward children Divernan Dec 2015 #57

They are such entirely different issues treestar Dec 2015 #58

I don't dismiss any suffering children Divernan Dec 2015 #62

This is not a good hill to go after Hillary on treestar Dec 2015 #64

Those cluster bombs remain after the wars end! Duh! Divernan Dec 2015 #65

The children in a war zone aren't human beings? farleftlib Dec 2015 #66

Cause their parents can't vote for HRC. or donate $$$ to her. Divernan Dec 2015 #67

Perhaps HRC has a kinder method of torture that she would employ? guillaumeb Dec 2015 #68

Hillary seems a bit too eager and determined to prove she is OK with violence whereisjustice Dec 2015 #74

Her kindness to children was shown, sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #76

Same as Obama nt Nomadas Dec 2015 #90

U.S. Bully Nation gordyfl Dec 2015 #91

BIpolar? Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #101

Lots of folks deserve the death penalty TeddyR Dec 2015 #104