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Scuba

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19. Lame red herring.

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Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:20 AM

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Why can't Americans be open minded about socialism? [View all] AZ Progressive Dec 2015 OP

As I just said randys1 Dec 2015 #1

Because the USSR as our enemy firebrand80 Dec 2015 #2

Because this country doesn't have TeddyR Dec 2015 #3

Because it's really not that great. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #4

I think the country is ready for many aspects. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #5

Two choices... brooklynite Dec 2015 #6

A privatized 'safety net'? Are you fucking kidding me? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #29

Not what I said.... brooklynite Dec 2015 #36

Capitalist 'solutions' AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #37

It would help if social security and Medicare weren't going bankrupt yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #42

That's a right wing talking point. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #47

A privatized 'safety net'? Are you fucking kidding me? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #30

“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #7

I think Sanders' candidacy and popularity is helping lovemydog Dec 2015 #8

They are. jeff47 Dec 2015 #9

It goes against the American spirit to allow government control of the means of production. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #10

But no one is advocating for that; it's just a scare tactic used by right-wingers. Scuba Dec 2015 #11

And Hillary supporters. Vinca Dec 2015 #17

A distinction without a difference. Scuba Dec 2015 #18

Socialism is, BY DEFINITION, government control of the means of production. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #21

The so-called "movement" would be Democratic Socialism, not socialism, but then you knew that. Scuba Dec 2015 #50

That is not socialism. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #23

Yes, it is socialism. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #24

Nope. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #25

So you choose to ignore the actual definition of socialism? MohRokTah Dec 2015 #27

Democratic Socialism has private control of means of production AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #31

Sanders originally embraced the term "Soicialist". not "Democratic Socialist". MohRokTah Dec 2015 #34

Sanders has been a Democratic Socialist since the early 60s AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #35

Nice attempt to rewrite history. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #38

Show your evidence AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #39

Just go to his own Senate page! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #40

Did you bother reading that? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #41

The OINLY term he uses is "socialist", NOT "Democratic Socialist". MohRokTah Dec 2015 #43

So you didn't read it AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #44

Same here. ShrimpPoboy Dec 2015 #54

Ignorance. I recently had a somewhat liberal Democrat tell me Social Security is not socialism. Scuba Dec 2015 #12

Social Security isn't socialist BlueStateLib Dec 2015 #16

Lame red herring. Scuba Dec 2015 #19

One has to earn social security credits BlueStateLib Dec 2015 #48

Not true. Children receive Social Security benefits should they lose a parent. Scuba Dec 2015 #51

some of the taxes you pay go toward survivors insurance BlueStateLib Dec 2015 #58

You are correct, and that is called "socialism." Scuba Dec 2015 #59

But there is a maximum one can draw at 62 or 66 INdemo Dec 2015 #52

Firstly, Sanders isn't a socialist BainsBane Dec 2015 #13

Hot damn, Bains! +1 Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #22

great post but it's unlikely to get a response JI7 Dec 2015 #28

"He incorrectly identified Denmark as a socialist country" AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #32

Some good stuff in there. Couple comments Deny and Shred Dec 2015 #46

Gay people were pretty much on the fringes of society, noone ever thought a black person would be... AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #56

Vote how you like BainsBane Dec 2015 #60

Oh, and Hillary said that she would go out there and win our vote... AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #57

I understand you think the "we" you invoke are the only voters who count BainsBane Dec 2015 #61

Also, I doubt many Sanders supporters actually want socialism BainsBane Dec 2015 #14

Taxi drivers in cuba make the same as cuban doctors BlueStateLib Dec 2015 #20

Sanders doesn't push Socialism AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #33

I found out a couple of weeks ago. Vinca Dec 2015 #15

Greed GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #26

^^ this PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #45

Wake me when it happens? brooklynite Dec 2015 #49

They are... deathrind Dec 2015 #53

Because they've been "propagandized" for many years with phony information. nt ladjf Dec 2015 #55