2016 Postmortem

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)

92. My view too.

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 03:21 PM

Dec 2015

About this:

more debates are the last thing he needs

He's a good candidate, a decent person, and I will proudly vote for him if he is the Dem nominee. But debates are not his forte, at least not debates with Hillary and Martin. Bernie's stump speech is outstanding and I love the economic issues that he raises. But when he is presented with a non-economic issue where he has to think on his feet and adapt not only to the questions but to the responses of the other candidates, he is not quite as strong.

On the other hand, MOM is an excellent debater.

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Martin O'Malley Says He Asked Bernie Sanders To Debate. Sanders Said No. [View all] Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 OP

M'OM and Dean are now under the bus for this. leftofcool Dec 2015 #1

Getting pretty crowded undr there! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #2

So pointing out an extremely misleading statement... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #19

Exactly. This is not an issue. Jackilope Dec 2015 #30

This! yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #31

Since he is a "new" Democrat, for this campaign specifically, I suspect that tblue37 Dec 2015 #36

How do we know it's either "an extremely misleading statement, aka lying"? George II Dec 2015 #54

We know, because Sanders was vocal... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #56

An amazing number of Dems under the bus in order to keep a nonDemocrat on a pedestal. Nt seabeyond Dec 2015 #23

martin is fine. Dean however knows that the DNC will bar both of them roguevalley Dec 2015 #66

He CAN NOT debate or he will be kicked off the DLC debates fasttense Dec 2015 #75

Really? Lochloosa Dec 2015 #3

The OP is not talking about the sanctioned debabtes. riversedge Dec 2015 #6

I understand that but the DNC made it clear they did not want unsanctioned debates. Lochloosa Dec 2015 #15

And would punish, or attempt to punish, any who participated. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #25

The DNC. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #37

If Bernie can't manage the DNC, how will he manage China? yardwork Dec 2015 #49

Could be, I guess. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #61

Maybe he'll just decline to engage on the debate question, like Hillary. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #72

And Dean and O'Mally know this fasttense Dec 2015 #82

O'Malley is a Hillary supporter? yardwork Dec 2015 #96

I think he is running for Hillary's VP fasttense Dec 2015 #108

Oh, Sanders is managing the DNC just fine when it matters. TM99 Dec 2015 #86

NO SHIT. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #43

That's not how politics works. yardwork Dec 2015 #51

And if he did AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #53

Not me. I expect successful politicians to overcome barriers. yardwork Dec 2015 #94

Oh please. There was nationwide outrage when the rule was announced. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #97

This link also crossed my path ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #4

O’Malley Accuses Sanders of Not Wanting More Debates riversedge Dec 2015 #5

K&R NCTraveler Dec 2015 #7

They all want O'Malley to go away. Koinos Dec 2015 #10

I doubt they care if he stays or goes. cali Dec 2015 #64

I've never heard anyone say a bad word against O'Malley (until today) nxylas Dec 2015 #80

If he said something like this AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #89

Funny how you think a lie of omission is 'the truth'. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #44

I don't think a lie of omission is the truth. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #52

And yet here you are, still calling it the truth after multiple posters supplied you with documentat AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #55

Correct. I believe O'Malley and Dean. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #58

It's not a conspiracy if it's right there on the DNC website. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #65

That isn't what I'm debating. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #67

You're supporting O'Malley's lie. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #70

Sorry but the evidence is all over DU this morning... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #60

As the only other actual Democrat in the race, he'd be my 2nd choice. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #59

Mine too. eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #90

Why am I not surprised? Koinos Dec 2015 #8

This isn't news. We all heard it as it happened. Schema Thing Dec 2015 #9

Do you actually believe Sanders and O'Malley would be kicked from future "official" debates? LonePirate Dec 2015 #13

Rachel Maddow et al, found a way around the "debate" issue Sheepshank Dec 2015 #20

And it's hardly a debate w/o Hillary there. Schema Thing Dec 2015 #21

In other words, he's only interested in doing something if it's politically beneficial? Amimnoch Dec 2015 #62

Bernie very openly asked for more debates. Schema Thing Dec 2015 #79

Read the OP? Amimnoch Dec 2015 #99

I think DWS and Hillary would be perfectly happy cancelling the remaining debates thesquanderer Dec 2015 #29

Per Omalley, Sansders was comfortable with 6. Contradicts what you are saying. NT seabeyond Dec 2015 #26

O'Malley is omitting the exclusivity rule. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #45

No, it does not make Omalley a liar and it amazes me how quickly Sanders supporters will point to seabeyond Dec 2015 #73

Dean did craft the 6 debate schedule. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #78

But of course we know this isn't true because we use our big ears to listen. Schema Thing Dec 2015 #46

But that just reinforces the fact... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #48

Sanders could have equally been lying. I do not know. You do not know. What he said to Omalley seabeyond Dec 2015 #68

Actually, we DO know... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #76

Knowing he wouldn't get them. A game? No, we do not know. seabeyond Dec 2015 #81

Weak sauce. n/t ljm2002 Dec 2015 #88

Not really. seabeyond Dec 2015 #91

Oh no!!! So sad Autumn Dec 2015 #11

If he had decided not to comply with the rules dragonlady Dec 2015 #27

No matter what Bernie does Autumn Dec 2015 #38

Why should he... lame54 Dec 2015 #12

They could have gotten around the exclusivity clause in any number of ways if they'd wanted to. ucrdem Dec 2015 #14

The candidates already did one event with Maddow. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #22

Bernie lost his summer lead in the first 30 minutes of the first debate. ucrdem Dec 2015 #28

My view too. BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #92

Yep Uponthegears Dec 2015 #101

What was Hillary's reaction? Did he ask her for a one on one debate? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #16

It's Bernie who has been claiming he wants more debates, not Hillary. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #18

Well, we certainly know that Hillary doesn't want to risk more debates. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #69

Her numbers went up after every debate with Sanders. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #71

Why isn't she demanding more debates if that's the case? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #74

Sanders and O'Malley joined forces to add one more debate CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #17

Very, very interesting. Thank you. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #35

The children's table is reserved for Republican debates. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #24

And is Bernie supposed to forfeit future DNC debates to have an valerief Dec 2015 #32

What's O'Malley polling at? jalan48 Dec 2015 #33

The meme that "Bernie can't debate" is right up there with "Obama needs a teleprompter".... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #34

O'malley mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #39

my my, and had he who woulda been the first to breathlessly top post stupidicus Dec 2015 #40

Our Lady of Perpetual Triangular Motion (St. HRC) is most pleased Jackilope Dec 2015 #41

Well Thom Hartmann has said it's a big fat lie and played a clip Cleita Dec 2015 #42

Ever Heard of Dems Exclusivity Clause? n/t fredamae Dec 2015 #47

So, despite the protestations of his supporters, Sanders is apparently happy with the debate.... George II Dec 2015 #50

No, he is not and that has been explained endlessly. It would be pointless Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #57

Let's review... brooklynite Dec 2015 #77

I hope so. Cleita Dec 2015 #83

You forgot Hillary. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #84

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2015 #63

With the exclusivity rule Sanders would have the most to jwirr Dec 2015 #85

Did O'Malley ask Clinton? TM99 Dec 2015 #87

So from all the comments from the Bernie gang Andy823 Dec 2015 #93

There's an exclusivity clause. Get informed first, THEN post. nt Romulox Dec 2015 #95

I am informed Andy823 Dec 2015 #103

You're making O'Malley look like a VP-seeking Hillary hitman. nt Romulox Dec 2015 #105

I have no problem Uponthegears Dec 2015 #100

Here is some advice Andy823 Dec 2015 #104

By standing up to the "powers that be" Uponthegears Dec 2015 #110

Deja vu Uponthegears Dec 2015 #98

Regarding this Exclusivity Clause ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #102

Understandable. Dean:.. Cha Dec 2015 #106

The Reluctant Revolutionary LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #107

It's been one hell of an informative morning on DU so far. Number23 Dec 2015 #109