2016 Postmortem

Beacool

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12. No, they won't be voting for Democrats.

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:01 PM

Jan 2016

But Democratic white gun owners will vote in IA and NH.

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Bernie Sanders Chasing White Votes with Gun Control Stubbornness [View all] Beacool Jan 2016 OP

Yep....Bernie already made clear he wants Trump voters Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #1

Trump supporters are a scary bunch. Beacool Jan 2016 #2

Because he thinks we can win the election with them Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #10

I doubt that the nutty bunch who support Trump will support Sanders. Beacool Jan 2016 #20

Sanders seems to think so, all that work isn't worth the few thousand crazy Trumpers votes uponit7771 Jan 2016 #25

The thing is the income inequality thing JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #31

I don't dislike Sanders, but I think that his plans are more wishful thinking than reality. Beacool Jan 2016 #44

Very wishful thinking--and there is going riversedge Jan 2016 #83

In all fairness, all that any Dem will do is ATTEMPT to select a SC justice. randys1 Jan 2016 #82

Hillary will take any position that you want. Loudestlib Jan 2016 #85

Is that what Hillary was doing when she ran this ad attacking Obama for being too anti-gun? Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #3

She flip flopped on guns before and she will again. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #7

I just get sicker and sicker. pangaia Jan 2016 #93

Harking back to 2008? Beacool Jan 2016 #11

2008 was more recent than any of Sanders' votes on the Brady bill Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #14

Zing! NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #17

Irrelevant the time we've been told ad nausea Sanders is different and he's not 180 degrees from uponit7771 Jan 2016 #27

Do you have any links to attack ads that Sanders has sent out on the gun control Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #34

Strawman and red herring, no one said anything about "attack ads" and NO... reality is Sanders uponit7771 Jan 2016 #37

If you are going to attack Sanders on guns then Hillary's position is fair game as well Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #51

Yes there is, Hilllary doesn't have Sanders voting history. I understand SBS supporters ... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #95

And you can't discount Hillary's history of sending out anti-gun control attack ads. Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #99

Link and quote or is this something else that people have "interperet" to be true about HRC uponit7771 Jan 2016 #118

I already posted an image of the attack ad she sent out once in this thread... Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #119

Done playing, that was an attack on Obama's stances on guns and not on anti gun control adds... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #120

I did not say it was an attack on anti-gun control ads Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #121

I meant to say Anti Gun control... not anti gun control adds. Either way, Obama took stance(S) on... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #122

ad nausea? lol m-lekktor Jan 2016 #111

It's okay for Hillary to change her position... thesquanderer Jan 2016 #90

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #96

Yet Hillary is perfectly fine sending guns to terrorist WDIM Jan 2016 #4

fricken AAAAAAA!!! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #28

If Sanders ever becomes president then he can make the tough decisions. Beacool Jan 2016 #47

Its not complex. Sending weapons to murderers. WDIM Jan 2016 #56

Depends on what benefits the US. Beacool Jan 2016 #58

No its not WDIM Jan 2016 #67

"Her" arms deals? Beacool Jan 2016 #70

The State department brings their recommendations to the president. WDIM Jan 2016 #76

so is the logic pretzel you've crafted demwing Jan 2016 #88

...^ that 840high Jan 2016 #105

Sanders needs to expand his base in order to get the nomination Gothmog Jan 2016 #5

I'm thinking they're going to ignore the SEC states now... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #29

Is that why the Sanders campaign recently opened an office in North Carolina? winter is coming Jan 2016 #39

A friend is running the Sanders operations in Texas Gothmog Jan 2016 #117

His pro-gun control stance voting for background checks and assault weapons bans? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #6

No, they won't be voting for Democrats. Beacool Jan 2016 #12

So? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #13

Thank you for small favors, his Brooklyn accent is grating enough. Beacool Jan 2016 #16

Her accent evolves as often as her positions do. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #19

Heck, I have lived and worked in NY and find it grating. Beacool Jan 2016 #21

That's a positive thing, no one wants an ever static regressive person as president... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #32

I don't want a chameleon who changes positions depending on who she's pandering to at the time. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #33

... or... who "HE'S" pandering to?!? You know .... rural uponit7771 Jan 2016 #40

Bernie doesn't pander. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #43

This is false uponit7771 Jan 2016 #45

Because you say so? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #50

cause.... reality or... "rural" uponit7771 Jan 2016 #97

What does that even mean? If you're referring to rural vs urban gun use Obama said the same thing. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #98

Now, that's funny. Beacool Jan 2016 #54

That is definitely a matter of opinion. Beacool Jan 2016 #53

It's a matter of record. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #55

It's a matter of record for those who opposed Hillary. Beacool Jan 2016 #59

You think Obama supporters were the only ones who noticed? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #61

Olbermann is the jerk who said that Hillary should be taken into a room and only "he" Beacool Jan 2016 #65

He wasn't the only one calling the Clintons out and you know it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #68

Olbermann was full of "it" in that commentary. More than often oasis Jan 2016 #75

I was never a big fan of the man. Beacool Jan 2016 #77

I believe he is responsible for the rise of Rachel Maddow. If so, oasis Jan 2016 #80

"for those who opposed Hillary" in other words demwing Jan 2016 #89

Bull crap!!! Beacool Jan 2016 #106

Clinton got roughly 17.5 million votes in the 2008 primary demwing Jan 2016 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author demwing Jan 2016 #108

LMAO, you are hilarious. Bernie was on the R B Garr Jan 2016 #110

Is that so? Here I thought 840high Jan 2016 #107

Hillary also thinks the issue belongs in the states, as she said when compaigning against Obama Doctor_J Jan 2016 #26

Yep, that's what she said in the video I posted. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #30

Gee I wonder what Bernie's position on cluster bombs would be! nt thereismore Jan 2016 #8

pro-jec-tion tularetom Jan 2016 #9

I see, Sanders' supporters can attack Hillary, but don't like it when their candidate is singled out Beacool Jan 2016 #15

Looking at a mirror? jeff47 Jan 2016 #18

No, my point is that Sanders is not above playing politics. Beacool Jan 2016 #22

And? jeff47 Jan 2016 #24

No. It's about the man. Empowerer Jan 2016 #38

With your exhaustive links proving your point, how can I argue?! jeff47 Jan 2016 #41

Seriously? Beacool Jan 2016 #62

Thank you! Empowerer Jan 2016 #36

I have no problem with Sanders' positions on gun control tularetom Jan 2016 #60

Maybe he should flip-flop on every issue like Hillary has. Some voters seem attracted by that. Doctor_J Jan 2016 #23

Those votes are his path to victory KingFlorez Jan 2016 #35

He is just very reasonable on this issue and you are right, his record will help him win. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #48

The gun issue is just not that important to many ram2008 Jan 2016 #42

+1. I think you'll find support for things like better background checks, waiting periods, winter is coming Jan 2016 #46

Exactly ram2008 Jan 2016 #49

Oh My God! Nuance Alert! We can't have an honest discussion of a complex issue! Armstead Jan 2016 #52

It is my opinion that he refuses to admit a mistake becaue he intended to provide Corporate Welfare Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #57

He wanted to give corporate welfare to gun manufacturers? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #63

No, even Inigo Monyoya would recognize Corporate Welfare when he sees it. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #64

Actually if you were paying attention you would know why he voted for the PLCAA. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #66

Ah, but even Sanders must recognize that the result of the bill was Corporate Welfare Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #69

It wasn't a mistake. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #72

The result was to protect the profits of Corporations and it wasn't a mistake? Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #74

His reasons for voting for the PLCAA weren't a mistake. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Jan 2016 #71

I'm black and a member of the NRA, I guess I do not count. JRLeft Jan 2016 #73

It depends, are you in IA or NH? Beacool Jan 2016 #78

Neither, I'm in California. JRLeft Jan 2016 #91

Then you don't count. Beacool Jan 2016 #104

Bad judgment. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #81

Riddle Me This - Why Is A Firearms Manufacturer Responsible For Unsafe Product Operation cantbeserious Jan 2016 #84

Hillarians desperately chase ANY vote by sliming Sanders as gun-humping racist. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #86

OK, guys. Are any of those of you talking about immunity for gun manufacturers actually JDPriestly Jan 2016 #87

Meh OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2016 #92

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win" ybbor Jan 2016 #94

As a white, male, RKBA Democrat, I only wish that were true. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #100

Ooop! Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #101

Camp girouette is spectacular today! Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #102

Yep. On the bright side ucrdem Jan 2016 #103

Nonsense. I think his vote for PLCAA was a mistake, Vattel Jan 2016 #112

Nope, but that's what your candidate did 8 years ago. jfern Jan 2016 #113

KICK.. thank you, Beacool Cha Jan 2016 #114

Hi!!! Beacool Jan 2016 #116

Aloha~ Cha Jan 2016 #124

Do only white people use guns? TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #115

Why would he be "Chasing White Votes" if you all say that's his only support? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #123