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Jarqui

(10,119 posts)
100. I agree. And it does strike me as a bit of a blinders on or a bizarre position
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jan 2016

because it's my biggest fear. I worry that the library of crap they can spin on her is so great they'll have a different scandal, flip-flop or lie replaying every day of the last 60 days of the campaign. And the Clinton campaign will be playing so much defense, it will be hard to get other messages out.

No doubt that I like Bernie more for a number of reasons. But my biggest thing is defending our last 8 years of effort with a Dem president. Hillary's poorer electability is a big difference to me between the two. And I think she's more vulnerable than the polls show because Bernie hasn't been doing much attacking. The the GOP really cut loose I think she'll fall and won't be able to bounce back unless the GOP has a worse fall.

Look at Bill's sex scandal. Many folks around here would agree with Clinton supporters that that wasn't Hillary's fault and shouldn't have a much place in this election.

But the GOP are going to play that up for everything thing it's worth. And it's worth something because many will subconsciously flash back to the time when they were not exactly proud of the Clintons in the White House because the president was taking time out of his busy schedule for getting blow jobs in the Oval Office. That's not my favorite memory of the Clinton years but the GOP will not let me forget it. And it will dent her in the polls a point or two.

Travelgate, Whitewater ... through to the still smoldering Benghazzi, Emailgate, Clinton foundation payoffs, etc.

Bernie does not have that big amount of baggage. They'll burn him some with his socialist label but when many folks find out what that really means, it's not going to hurt him nearly as much of all the stuff they have on Hillary.

Yippee ! ! ! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #1
How democratic they voted. JRLeft Jan 2016 #3
How democratically they voted. eom Plucketeer Jan 2016 #72
They have always have been the tea party left lewebley3 Jan 2016 #99
Uhhh greiner3 Jan 2016 #103
Dude every post of yours has me.......... JRLeft Jan 2016 #111
Fortunately, it's all made-up bullshit. They have to counter everything with SOMEthing. arcane1 Jan 2016 #126
LOL. Even when they tried to help Pres Clinton? Moveon isn't a radical organization. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #121
move on formed in 1998 to oppose the impeachment of Bill Clinton. merrily Jan 2016 #149
Great! Hope it translates to boots on the ground cali Jan 2016 #2
He has boots on the ground Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #25
Just got an email that Bernie's opening an office snoringvoter Jan 2016 #56
Not only go but volunteer Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #60
Welcome to DU. And extra applause for being a Bernie supporter. lob1 Jan 2016 #90
How exciting! Where is the new office? (Not asking for gps,just the general vicinity.) hedda_foil Jan 2016 #124
surprise surprise. leftofcool Jan 2016 #4
Agreed. No surprise that the endorsement went to the progressive, not the cali Jan 2016 #10
+1 Exactly. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #23
Right?! AllyCat Jan 2016 #63
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #114
+1 Go Vols Jan 2016 #164
With the huge wave of good news for Bernie Android3.14 Jan 2016 #79
Cue Hillary fan's "it's not accurate" responses in 3... 2... 1... Scuba Jan 2016 #5
Polls are only accurate LWolf Jan 2016 #9
I was thinking more along the lines of: Cue Hillary fan's "it's not representative" quips in 3..2..1 Bubzer Jan 2016 #15
But you know the thing is that people were sharing it on social media and with their friend davidpdx Jan 2016 #26
Makes you wonder how many of the "hillary supporters" are actually conservatives in sheep's clothing Bubzer Jan 2016 #35
As the polls show, the GOP would rather face Hillary. Jarqui Jan 2016 #46
Not only that, but the Hillary supporters are convinced that she's been "vetted" SheilaT Jan 2016 #71
I agree. And it does strike me as a bit of a blinders on or a bizarre position Jarqui Jan 2016 #100
"They'll burn him some with his socialist label" Lordquinton Jan 2016 #105
It happens to all candidates Jarqui Jan 2016 #108
No one ever stands up to the socialist label Lordquinton Jan 2016 #109
I agree with you. Hillary is very vulnerable. The "scandals" don't have to be true or have JDPriestly Jan 2016 #141
She didn't run against Republicans eight years ago. merrily Jan 2016 #150
Kinda more like.... Congrats Sanders. Excellent endorsement. No need to be petty, vile or attack seabeyond Jan 2016 #19
And yet, most other edorsements, or just plain old good news for Bernie, get attacked. Bubzer Jan 2016 #37
Everything has been attacked: Sanders, his wife, his supporters, polls favorable to him, merrily Jan 2016 #152
Right?!? I dont get it either. They paint it as though hillary is the only one being attacked. Bubzer Jan 2016 #163
Agreed. There's bad behavior in both camps, but somehow the meme has spread that Sanders WIProgressive88 Jan 2016 #175
+1 Well said. n/t Tanuki Jan 2016 #39
well rtracey Jan 2016 #48
Can't give it a rest, even on an endorsement thread? merrily Jan 2016 #151
nope rtracey Jan 2016 #166
sad merrily Jan 2016 #170
whatever rtracey Jan 2016 #173
calling out Hillary fans? treestar Jan 2016 #82
Not the same thing. cui bono Jan 2016 #88
Exactly. Large Union Leaders are likely a part of the Oligarchy/1% That's why they libdem4life Jan 2016 #92
well if you've convinced yourself of that treestar Jan 2016 #94
You are either very naive Trajan Jan 2016 #107
Union heads do it all the time TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #110
2 years ago, my union negotiated behind the members backs, a contract that would have neverforget Jan 2016 #127
But... MoveOn used an internet poll! Lordquinton Jan 2016 #106
And no one but fans of Bernie are able to vote in internet polls. That's the fact, jack. merrily Jan 2016 #153
It's true Lordquinton Jan 2016 #167
The internet has a liberal bias. merrily Jan 2016 #171
He knocked it right out of the fucking park! +1. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #6
It's just another online poll padded by a couple of millennials who won't vote anyway. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #7
Yep LOL UglyGreed Jan 2016 #40
. merrily Jan 2016 #154
That link just chuckled me up... Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #165
Cool. Being chuckled up is good. merrily Jan 2016 #169
Wow! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #8
I wish I could rec your reply multiple times. Scuba Jan 2016 #11
Thanks! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #17
All those mouse clicks take a lot of effort you know! Bubzer Jan 2016 #16
My three capuchins just passed away from exhaustion snoringvoter Jan 2016 #57
Not after working them to death... nt kristopher Jan 2016 #98
Dead capuchins still vote in Chicago. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #115
LOL! Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #27
LOL! Yeah, in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #38
I agree 100%! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #41
As one of those three supporters stage left Jan 2016 #67
Yes, get some sleep! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #122
Done! stage left Jan 2016 #168
Multiple recs granted. Ivan Kaputski Jan 2016 #83
I'll vote and support multiple rec's for.... Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #144
This is fabulous! Punkingal Jan 2016 #12
The Top 5 Reasons MoveOn Members Voted to Endorse Bernie (with the Most Votes and Widest Margin in ) Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #13
You need to fix your link, OS. winter is coming Jan 2016 #18
That's a great endorsement! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #44
Very impressive democrank Jan 2016 #14
YESSSS!!!!!!! Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #20
Congratulations Bernie and Sanders' supporters on the endorsement still_one Jan 2016 #21
Thank you! MrChuck Jan 2016 #29
A sincere thank you. SamKnause Jan 2016 #31
it is a good solid endorsement to have still_one Jan 2016 #34
Bernie deserves the credit, not us... mak3cats Jan 2016 #51
Thanks, still_one. From you, I believe it. merrily Jan 2016 #156
It is starting to make sense to me now. nolabels Jan 2016 #22
Woohoo! mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #24
Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #28
I suppose I could go act like some of the Bernie supporters BainsBane Jan 2016 #30
Well... redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #32
Nor, I suspect, did Planned Parenthood BainsBane Jan 2016 #36
Mostly becuase even those who disagree with their endorsement are not synergie Jan 2016 #146
So you wrote a passive agressive post instead. last1standing Jan 2016 #118
Moveon is a political organization while Planned Parenthood shouldn't be. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #119
It was PP's political arm that made the endorsement BainsBane Jan 2016 #177
Planned Parenthood has never snubbed Democratic candidates in a primary race before. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #179
"their own democratic choices" is the key expression in your post. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #143
You assert that BainsBane Jan 2016 #178
Good for you. Unfortunately, some of your fellow Clinton supporters are being rather poor sports WIProgressive88 Jan 2016 #174
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jan 2016 #33
When I see you type this, ejbr Jan 2016 #42
Yes! n/t ejbr Jan 2016 #43
I'm sure not surprised. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #45
Yayyyy!! Now, THIS is a big endorsement! Duval Jan 2016 #47
An internet poll that Supported Senator Sanders. Amimnoch Jan 2016 #49
"I wish my candidate would lie as much as he has" JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #53
Yep. Her public pronouncements is a veritable bonanza of prevarication Armstead Jan 2016 #58
+1 for the great wording! n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #62
Huge +1! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #116
+1 The Prevarication is Strong with that One! Melissa G Jan 2016 #123
Very pleasantly surprised. My lord! Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #95
Do Hillary's supporters not know how to vote on the Internet? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #54
Leader? LEADER?? I'm sorry, is this the joke of the day thread?? Amimnoch Jan 2016 #68
Bernie's track record and the people would disagree with you. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #70
I'm sorry you are so bitter. cui bono Jan 2016 #91
LOL.. 2 letters for you mate.. PP Amimnoch Jan 2016 #96
I don't know what that means, so... cui bono Jan 2016 #97
Maybe Bernie stands against the MIC in the same way that Paul does that in the Republican Party... cascadiance Jan 2016 #101
And what kind of "leadership" did H. Clinton show when George Bush asked her to join him rhett o rick Jan 2016 #133
erm Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #129
I doubt too many Hillary supporters dlwickham Jan 2016 #135
Will you be voting in the primaries? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #136
of course I will dlwickham Jan 2016 #140
So why do you so readily discount on line polls like Move On's? Do believe Bernie's supporters Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #142
Online polls are one thing dlwickham Jan 2016 #161
Lie? Hillary is the queen of dissembling. cali Jan 2016 #55
Come on now, we don't shit on others' parades kjones Jan 2016 #77
"impossible to achive promises" like a mathematically impossible magic encryption backdoor that only Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #128
Some of us don't recognize or admit when our wish has come true. merrily Jan 2016 #157
Yes! SoapBox Jan 2016 #50
With 340,665 votes cast Bernie gets 78.6% now that's an endorsement! Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #52
#FeelTheBern! RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #59
Good. jwirr Jan 2016 #61
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #64
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #65
. libodem Jan 2016 #66
Sweet Mother Mary. This and this mornings new polls Purveyor Jan 2016 #69
Oddly enough, the percentage just about exactly matches SheilaT Jan 2016 #73
What GREAT news to wake up to! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #74
a mink hair shy? grasswire Jan 2016 #80
reminds me of a client says things like merrily Jan 2016 #158
little reminder of what HRC said about Moveon back in 08' Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #75
Well, at least we kniw why her supporters in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #78
Wow. cui bono Jan 2016 #93
MoveOn.org has "moved on" from Clinton snoringvoter Jan 2016 #125
Wow thanks. bahrbearian Jan 2016 #137
BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE INTO AFGHANISTAN Hissyspit Jan 2016 #148
So Much Good News For Bernie... ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #76
Where's the snide "clicky" comments? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #81
Congrats Bernie. It's a good endorsement. one_voice Jan 2016 #84
Considering the original purpose of MoveOn, this is extra enjoyable. n/t eggplant Jan 2016 #85
kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #86
78.6 percent !!! cui bono Jan 2016 #87
Love love love love it. azmom Jan 2016 #89
Bernie is going to win!!! Sorry HRC! Yupy Jan 2016 #102
bvar22 endorses MoveOn for rejoining the fight. bvar22 Jan 2016 #104
I'm with you. nt Enthusiast Jan 2016 #117
I'm glad I voted... Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #112
K&R! I'm happy to see this post has hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #113
Since there are some who don't understand the difference between this and Planned Parenthood... last1standing Jan 2016 #120
We are not the fringe. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #130
No fairs... 99Forever Jan 2016 #131
Some people try to say that H. Clinton is progressive. Well this progressive organization rhett o rick Jan 2016 #132
Al From admitted to intentionally mucking up that word, so.... merrily Jan 2016 #159
Doing the happy dance!! #FeeltheBern!!! eom Karma13612 Jan 2016 #134
Wow. pacalo Jan 2016 #138
I was a charter member of Moveon. murielm99 Jan 2016 #139
+1 merrily Jan 2016 #155
Hot damn. John Poet Jan 2016 #145
hooray for moveon & bernie hopemountain Jan 2016 #147
Excellent! chwaliszewski Jan 2016 #160
Considering MoveOn was the organization that started liberalnarb Jan 2016 #162
I just got the moveon.org email this evening and unsubscribed. underthematrix Jan 2016 #172
2006. The last time I gave them any money. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #176
321 Recs and Skinner didn't make the list? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #180
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