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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
28. That's not exactly what I see
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jan 2016

The progressives and the corporatists in the Democratic Party are ready to split but are trying to hang together until the GOP finally implodes. It doesn't matter if Bernie or Hillary wins the nomination. One or the other of them will win the election over Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, the two clowns still standing in the Republican race, who are also the two most repulsive Republicans in the race.

With the wheels coming off Mrs. Clinton's campaign, the greatest obstacle to Bernie becoming President is not a Republican in November, but those in the corporatist wing of the party willing to resort to subterfuge to prevent him from winning the nomination or, barring that, to run a willing corporate stooge like Michael Bloomberg to sabotage Bernie's chances in November. Bernie could even win in that scenario, but a poll recent showing Bloomberg running as a third party candidate puts Bernie neck and neck with Trump or Cruz, whereas he blows either one out in what will be a traditional two-party race. If the corporatist wing of the party is successful at denying Bernie the nomination after he wins most of the primaries, then many progressives will either stay home or vote for a third party candidate like Jill Stein rather than vote for Mrs. Clinton or whomever the corporatists find to take her place on the ticket. That will probably split the party permanently, Republican implosion or no Republican implosion. Nevertheless, I believe any Democrat will defeat either Trump or Cruz, but giving the eventual president such a crooked path to the White House will certainly diminish the effectiveness of that president and perhaps even make re-election 2020 less likely. Such an outcome would be adverse both for the Democratic Party and for most Americans.

If there is anybody considering stopping Bernie Sanders by this kind of subterfuge, consider yourself warned against it.

The Big Guns have come out against Bernie. [View all] Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 OP
they are afraid Pharaoh Jan 2016 #1
Yep. We are out of control RobertEarl Jan 2016 #3
... Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #7
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2016 #32
Very true dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #2
I've been waiting for this conversation for decades. jillan Jan 2016 #4
Me too! So frustrating living in this society dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #5
I feel like, with Bernie, we are finally returning to -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #6
Even before that Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #38
indeed. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #40
Adlai would have been a great one also greiner3 Jan 2016 #54
He's seen as very dangerous to the richest. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #8
That other Jew, that Jesus guy? He sort of pointed that out a couple of millennia ago EOM mikehiggins Jan 2016 #25
What if a conservative Democrat party became dominant in the power structure? jomin41 Jan 2016 #10
? dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #12
I'm just seeing the Repubs seeming to implode jomin41 Jan 2016 #13
Thanks for explaining dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #16
Yeah, I grew up in the fifties jomin41 Jan 2016 #30
I think the party would rather triangulate us than assimilate us and our goals dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #34
That's not exactly what I see Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #28
Voting for Jill Stein is voting for Donald Trump/Ted Cruz. lark Jan 2016 #49
You're right, of course Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #50
I can and will. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #58
And so goes our nation lark Jan 2016 #59
You mean Democratic party right? That is a right wing slur litlbilly Jan 2016 #15
He gave himself away there n/t tom_kelly Jan 2016 #26
He sure did:) litlbilly Jan 2016 #27
Maybe, maybe not dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #36
Why would someone want to sound unintelligent, I don't know. n/t tom_kelly Jan 2016 #53
IF that happened, the vacuum on the Populist Left would be quickly filled... bvar22 Jan 2016 #52
He's dangerous to those who want to keep their greedy ways. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #56
Bernie is a man of peace. The only one running. jomin41 Jan 2016 #9
+1 dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #19
They ignored 'that pesky socialist ' thinking he'd just fade away from having no support and in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #11
Do you suppose the oligarchs will demand a taxpayer bailout? Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #14
I think she's already out of money and needs the big donor fund raisers cash. Bernie knows how to litlbilly Jan 2016 #18
reports indicate that she has 90% of $ and people in Iowa and NH. She's hurting for sure. roguevalley Jan 2016 #21
I think you mean she spent 90% of her money. Bernie not even close. Id like to see actual numbers. litlbilly Jan 2016 #24
That was the only reason I could think of that she'd blow off Iowa...where she's clearly libdem4life Jan 2016 #35
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #17
With the right Treasury Secretary, SEC, FBI and Justice Department.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #20
Wake up and embrace Stage 7 of Establishment Meltdown--it is upon us ElliotCarver Jan 2016 #22
Has this been been a DU Original Post yet? StandingInLeftField Jan 2016 #29
I see that it already has been a topic StandingInLeftField Jan 2016 #31
Hadn't seen this yet, thanks dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #37
Thank you! ElliotCarver Jan 2016 #57
We might need to form a militia to protect him. ErikJ Jan 2016 #23
Got it today. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #60
FYI Rafale Jan 2016 #33
Yes. That's how Oligarchy works, unfortunately. It has happened in many other industries libdem4life Jan 2016 #43
Yes Rafale Jan 2016 #46
After Sanders, we must reach the unwashed masses et al...then change Congress. libdem4life Jan 2016 #48
that CNN townhall was certainly a smear against Bernie Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #39
It sure was a hit job. I predicted it. Those fuckers should be embarrassed. But they have no shame. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #44
K & R!!! Thespian2 Jan 2016 #41
There's only one major difference between Trump and Sanders. Congressional Endorsements. PatrynXX Jan 2016 #42
You can judge a mans character by the power of his enemies. Bonhomme Richard Jan 2016 #45
Boot the billionaires. Boot bezos. Give em the BOOT! Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #47
look at who funds both parties EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #51
Their shrilly Twitterettes are obnoxious sellitman Jan 2016 #55
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