Bernie Sanders
In reply to the discussion: My bro, who I'm continuing to 'splain Bernie to, texted me today about the awful interview with [View all]SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I figured out many years ago that Rose is basically some sort of right-winger.
But to call Hillary responsible for the Iraq war deaths is dumb. Yes, she voted for the war, but so did far too many others in Congress. They share in the blame, but it is the lies that Bush and is evil cohorts told to convince the gullible that we needed to go to war who are the real culprits here.
After all, there are those trying to hold Bernie Sanders responsible for the Sandy Hook deaths, because he doesn't think gun manufacturers should be held responsible for their guns being used to murder people. And I think that's correct.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a nut case on gun control. I think guns should be outright confiscated, or at the very least far more stringent conditions on who should be able to own them. Meanwhile, the gun manufacturers are just being good capitalists. This seems similar to the cigarette makers, but really is quite different. Cigarettes, when used exactly as intended, result in an astonishingly high rate of disease and death. Guns are not sold only to kill people, even though they're quite good at that. There are those who hunt. There are those who think they really need one in the home for defense. While I may not be crazy about hunting, and I am inclined to think the need for a gun for home defense is vastly overplayed, those are my opinions, and others disagree.
Anyway, as much as I think that all those who voted for the Iraq War were wrong, they are not the ones who should be blamed.
Much of what Hillary did as Secretary of State however, is condemnable and she should be held responsible.