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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. I didn't see it.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:51 PM
Apr 2016

I figured out many years ago that Rose is basically some sort of right-winger.

But to call Hillary responsible for the Iraq war deaths is dumb. Yes, she voted for the war, but so did far too many others in Congress. They share in the blame, but it is the lies that Bush and is evil cohorts told to convince the gullible that we needed to go to war who are the real culprits here.

After all, there are those trying to hold Bernie Sanders responsible for the Sandy Hook deaths, because he doesn't think gun manufacturers should be held responsible for their guns being used to murder people. And I think that's correct.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a nut case on gun control. I think guns should be outright confiscated, or at the very least far more stringent conditions on who should be able to own them. Meanwhile, the gun manufacturers are just being good capitalists. This seems similar to the cigarette makers, but really is quite different. Cigarettes, when used exactly as intended, result in an astonishingly high rate of disease and death. Guns are not sold only to kill people, even though they're quite good at that. There are those who hunt. There are those who think they really need one in the home for defense. While I may not be crazy about hunting, and I am inclined to think the need for a gun for home defense is vastly overplayed, those are my opinions, and others disagree.

Anyway, as much as I think that all those who voted for the Iraq War were wrong, they are not the ones who should be blamed.

Much of what Hillary did as Secretary of State however, is condemnable and she should be held responsible.

I happened on part of it last night. It wasn't that bbgrunt Apr 2016 #1
Yeah, just watched... It was pretty ugly. Feeling bad for Bernie. After the great week he has just JudyM Apr 2016 #12
Charlie Rose spent most of the time telling Sanders how feel and behave. rgbecker Apr 2016 #2
Was the only negative side of it about that one issue? JudyM Apr 2016 #3
Here's what I saw of it...if you can stomach it. rgbecker Apr 2016 #7
The New York Power Media has a job to do and Charlie, ultimate Establishment Guy got appalachiablue Apr 2016 #15
Yes 'take Sanders down' is definitely what it looked like. JudyM Apr 2016 #16
While campaigning now in critical NY, my sense is Bernie will do as many media appalachiablue Apr 2016 #17
He is amazing... Multiple speaking engagements in different time zones. JudyM Apr 2016 #18
Here's my OP on the Rachel-Jane interview last night: comments & Video in post #33. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #19
Bernie's a wise, exceptional & fearless fighter. The movement grows & we're in good hands. :) appalachiablue Apr 2016 #23
It all depends on us, that we're educated to be wary of their tricks. delrem Apr 2016 #20
I'd forgot the Kardashian event, a new low definitely! Your cockroachiness is appalachiablue Apr 2016 #22
Lower is Hillary Clinton and Henry Kissinger. delrem Apr 2016 #24
Typical Charlie Rose! bjo59 Apr 2016 #29
Bernie did well in the interview, from what I've seen and heard about it sketchy Apr 2016 #4
Thanks, just watched. It's pretty bad, actually, IMO. Rose kept hammering him and bringing up JudyM Apr 2016 #13
I was disappointed in Bernie pandora nm Apr 2016 #5
That would've wreaked such havoc within the party, though, probably why he hung back, eh? JudyM Apr 2016 #6
I agree. That's for the voters to decide n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #8
Correct. The USA is not at any point willing to admit to the tragedy of its recent wars of choice. delrem Apr 2016 #25
! Nt JudyM Apr 2016 #30
Did your brother watch it? TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #9
No, he said he watched it. He's been a dem his whole life and dislikes Hillary and doesn't feel JudyM Apr 2016 #10
I didn't see it. SheilaT Apr 2016 #11
Yeah, Bernie never got control of the interview enough to hit Clinton on anything squarely, nor to JudyM Apr 2016 #14
Too bad. SheilaT Apr 2016 #21
There is blame enough to go around and Hillary gets part of it. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #27
You make excellent points. JudyM Apr 2016 #31
Give your brother a copy of the book, Outsider in the White House by Bernie Sanders. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #26
Interesting idea, thanks! He probably won't give it the time, unfortunately, with his schedule JudyM Apr 2016 #32
Didn't watch but Charlie Rose is absolutely insufferable, no matter who he's interviewing... bjo59 Apr 2016 #28
This will never happen to Bernie again Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #33
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