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Gregorian

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8. That's right. He's one of the only ones talking about this critical ommission from the discussion.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jul 2015

Wolff is a wealth of information on this critical and pivotal topic. Everything seems to follow from how the surplus is organized.

Once you see this fact, the whole system is revealed. I spent years uncomfortable with how the employer/employee relationship worked. But once it was pointed out that it's based on exploitation, it all came right into my conscious. And that's the only way we can control it.

We can have revolutions, and all the rest, and still fail, if we don't turn this one thing around.

What's revealing is how Wolff points out the 150 year period of rising income, right up to the 70's. And once you know that tidbit, it becomes obvious what happened to our society.

We're so far down the road after the 70's, we just cannot afford to continue. And even when wages were rising we were being exploited, but could tolerate it due to the rising wages.

Also what he points out is how when wages failed to continue rising, the capitalist owners of our society decided not to pay us more, but to instead LOAN US MONEY. And the rest is history. Now we work more in order to consume the same amount.

If people understood this, we'd see a lot different topics being posted on this forum. But the problem is, through indoctrination, we have been taught to pretty much ignore this topic.

Bush. Clinton. Bush. Clinton. They’re just spokes on a wheel. rbnyc Jul 2015 #1
We must stop the exploitation of workers. Gregorian Jul 2015 #2
I agree! rbnyc Jul 2015 #3
Excellent post - TBF Jul 2015 #4
It promotes racism, drug use, violence, poverty... Gregorian Jul 2015 #6
Worker owned Co-Ops Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #17
All I know is that Bernie is a sea change and by far the best candidate. merrily Jul 2015 #5
Yes! justaddh2o Jul 2015 #7
That's right. He's one of the only ones talking about this critical ommission from the discussion. Gregorian Jul 2015 #8
Excellent Points - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #9
Some Democrats Have Bought Into The Trickle Down Economics Meme cantbeserious Jul 2015 #10
K&R..... daleanime Jul 2015 #11
Thank you so much dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #12
Thanks for posting confirmation that Bernie is indeed on this path. Gregorian Jul 2015 #14
Great, good OP you have here dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #16
These are all good ideas. Gregorian Jul 2015 #18
For what it's worth... AOR Jul 2015 #19
Thanks. I'm still trying to distill and condense the ideas into a new post. Gregorian Jul 2015 #20
Did you ever rework and post elsewhere? dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #21
Thanks. I'm still trying to learn and condense. Gregorian Aug 2015 #22
OK, I'll watch for it dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #23
It's an important principle Babel_17 Jul 2015 #13
It's time to redsign the employee/employer relationship. It's time to evolve to the next phase. Gregorian Jul 2015 #15
Great post. Found via someone's rec page hence the late rec n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #24
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