Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
18. These are all good ideas.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jul 2015

I think what Bernie is proposing is too frightening for people. We've been so indoctrinated into our present way of viewing labor relationships, that this seems like a gamble.

It's so clear to me now. And what is also interesting is listening to Max Keiser this week. He's also discussing the indicators that show how capitalism has finally run it's course. To continue on like this is like ignoring a house on fire. People just feel like asking someone for a job, and letting them run the show is how it works. We're actually moving back towards feudalism. And the income inequality is very much like that.

This is all about the discovery Marx made. And it's why Marx is demonized and minimized. There is absolutely zero being taught in schools regarding Marx's discovery. And it's not a theory. It's a fact. People are being mistreated and omitted from participating in the very employment situation they are in. This is the crux of it all. Workers are being treated just a bit better than slaves. And in some cases, just the same.

Quantitative easing is all about lowing wages.

Bernie knows these things, and we have a rare opportunity in this election to begin turning this arrangement around. Who controls the value that the workers add. That's what this is all about. We can regulate, and change the decorations on the walls, but in the end the only thing that will turn this capitalist problem around is rearranging who controls the fruits of our labor.

I'm amazed that this thread was kept off the greatest page. I'm going to rework my thoughts, and post this elsewhere because it's time people see just how much better their world can be. This is one of those revelations that comes once or twice in a lifetime. I finally saw the light. It's odd how I have always felt poorly about the situation, but never consciously saw it until now. I too was repelled from Marx by how he has been tarnished in our society. All but nonexistent, because it threatened those who knew they could keep this racket going.

Bush. Clinton. Bush. Clinton. They’re just spokes on a wheel. rbnyc Jul 2015 #1
We must stop the exploitation of workers. Gregorian Jul 2015 #2
I agree! rbnyc Jul 2015 #3
Excellent post - TBF Jul 2015 #4
It promotes racism, drug use, violence, poverty... Gregorian Jul 2015 #6
Worker owned Co-Ops Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #17
All I know is that Bernie is a sea change and by far the best candidate. merrily Jul 2015 #5
Yes! justaddh2o Jul 2015 #7
That's right. He's one of the only ones talking about this critical ommission from the discussion. Gregorian Jul 2015 #8
Excellent Points - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #9
Some Democrats Have Bought Into The Trickle Down Economics Meme cantbeserious Jul 2015 #10
K&R..... daleanime Jul 2015 #11
Thank you so much dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #12
Thanks for posting confirmation that Bernie is indeed on this path. Gregorian Jul 2015 #14
Great, good OP you have here dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #16
These are all good ideas. Gregorian Jul 2015 #18
For what it's worth... AOR Jul 2015 #19
Thanks. I'm still trying to distill and condense the ideas into a new post. Gregorian Jul 2015 #20
Did you ever rework and post elsewhere? dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #21
Thanks. I'm still trying to learn and condense. Gregorian Aug 2015 #22
OK, I'll watch for it dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #23
It's an important principle Babel_17 Jul 2015 #13
It's time to redsign the employee/employer relationship. It's time to evolve to the next phase. Gregorian Jul 2015 #15
Great post. Found via someone's rec page hence the late rec n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #24
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Bernie Sanders»Here is why Bernie Sander...»Reply #18