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12. I didn't watch the entire video
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:02 AM
May 2019

but I think I get the gist of their argument. I teach math for a living and have taught AP stats (though admittedly not in about a decade). There are two issues they are bringing up. One is that there aren't enough young people polled relative to the percent they are of the voting population (they polled only septegenarions) and two is that the young people they polled are too small a sample to be representative. To evaluate the first we would need to know the relative numbers who vote and how many were polled. Clearly they polled fewer young people but we don't know how many fewer they polled nor do we know how many fewer of them vote. The reason they put the N/A in those columns is that they couldn't find small enough confidence intervals given the size of those samples. That doesn't mean that the number of people in that sample wasn't the proper number given the percent who vote.

As to the representativeness of the sample, they might have a point or they might not. We do know that the confidence interval would have been large (though not how large) and that due to that they didn't produce one nor list percentages. That is all we know. It should be noted though that provided the percent of young people in the sample was correct as to the percent of the voting population, then even if this were an unrepresentative sample it wouldn't have had a huge effect (since it was small). In short, the first issue is the bigger problem and they do nothing at all to tell us if it exists or doesn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
You lost me at ... NanceGreggs May 2019 #1
It's basically an attempt at "unskewing" the poll. BannonsLiver May 2019 #2
Yup, you noticed that to. Gee, perhaps the OP thinks that Biden will drop out of the race because still_one May 2019 #4
Has HA Goodman checked in on this? NurseJackie May 2019 #16
+++++++++++++ still_one May 2019 #19
... NYMinute May 2019 #28
Or Walter Bragman? KitSileya May 2019 #34
Same here! True Blue American May 2019 #5
+1 MrsCoffee May 2019 #23
Too early to poll anyway. elleng May 2019 #3
How so? Who says? Why is it "too early" to poll? NurseJackie May 2019 #17
Because Bernie isn't in front. MrsCoffee May 2019 #22
I believe you've nailed it. That's what I was thinking too. NurseJackie May 2019 #25
eh, it is pretty early for polling qazplm135 May 2019 #30
Thanks for the practical response, qazplm135. elleng May 2019 #32
Baloney elleng May 2019 #33
I don't think so. Cha May 2019 #36
Hmmmmmm... interesting!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #6
Roflmfao. MrsCoffee May 2019 #21
You need a gif to go with that nt NYMinute May 2019 #29
I ignore all polls whether good or bad, watoos May 2019 #7
46% is within the MOE of several other polls. TwilightZone May 2019 #14
You STILL have "no idea this is true." I couldn't find any analysis Hortensis May 2019 #8
Cenk Uygur and Tim Hains... lapucelle May 2019 #9
Cenk has a certificate ucrdem May 2019 #10
Cenk Uygur? NYMinute May 2019 #11
I didn't watch the entire video dsc May 2019 #12
Very good post NYMinute May 2019 #27
There are four other polls showing him with similar leads. TwilightZone May 2019 #13
Cenk is a deceptive right winger with a very sordid history of ratfucking and sexism. WeekiWater May 2019 #15
Bingo! R B Garr May 2019 #18
But... but... he is consoling and soothing to some ... NYMinute May 2019 #26
I guess the OP didn't Cha May 2019 #37
And lately he's praising Tucker Carlson: highplainsdem May 2019 #45
Screw Cenk and the Russians he rode in on. MrsCoffee May 2019 #20
+1 dalton99a May 2019 #24
Exactly! So perfectly stated! R B Garr May 2019 #35
Three polls came out that same day..All were trending largely in Biden's favor... Kahuna7 May 2019 #31
But Cenk drones on. Cha May 2019 #38
From Nate Silver Gothmog May 2019 #39
Thanks, Gothmog! I like Nate's description of their nonsense: "their full-of-shit unskewing." highplainsdem May 2019 #40
I trust Nate on polling issues Gothmog May 2019 #41
Hey! Nate Silver.. "To start with the basics, The Young Turks are full of shit about this," Cha May 2019 #42
Again I trust Nate on polling issues Gothmog May 2019 #43
I like his Cha May 2019 #44
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