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Celerity

(53,320 posts)
43. I think you vastly overrate Biden's power
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:38 PM
May 2019

He is nowhere even near the nomination yet, and certainly not a lock to win the POTUS if the economy holds up and we bollocks up oversight over the orange bloat. I am young but I wasn't born yesterday. I NEVER count chickens before they hatch.

Biden has an outdated view of the modern political landscape IMHO.

Joe Biden: "I like Dick Cheney, for real. I think he is a decent man."




Joe Biden’s Paid Speech Buoyed the G.O.P. in Midwest Battleground

The former vice president's address in October helped Fred Upton, a vulnerable Republican, win re-election in Michigan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html

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But Mr. Biden’s appearance in Michigan plainly set his lucrative personal activities at odds with what some Democrats saw as his duty to the party, linking him with a civic group seen as tilting to the right and undermining Democrats’ effort to defeat Mr. Upton, a powerful lawmaker who in 2017 helped craft a bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

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Finally, it is ludicrous to think that a Rethug Senate will pass bills that move the nation 'to the left', unless you are going to give me some plazzy version of what 'left' is.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Biden is my man. But that ain't gonna happen. nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #1
of course he's right, but you've phrased it the wrong way. unblock May 2019 #2
truth Celerity May 2019 #45
Not a chance in hell any Republican will work with Biden or any Democrats after 2020. LonePirate May 2019 #3
Being the same age as Biden, Wellstone ruled May 2019 #4
His last real friend in the senate died recently, that was Sen Lugar rpannier May 2019 #20
Being honest about being mid to Wellstone ruled May 2019 #41
Took a pass because there was no "They will have an epiphany, but rzemanfl May 2019 #5
Precisely!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #29
Is he joking? pangaia May 2019 #6
I had to read Joe's comments twice to make sure I was reading it right. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #30
I'll take... tonedevil May 2019 #7
It's a Daily Double!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #31
They'll have an epiphany that says the President shouldn't have any authority at all ... dawg May 2019 #8
+1. Like they did to Democratic governors-elect dalton99a May 2019 #9
I think that some Republicans will use that in their 2020 election campaigns More_Cowbell May 2019 #10
I fully agree because he is right. WeekiWater May 2019 #11
reform on what? Celerity May 2019 #35
Immigration. Criminal justice. Tax. WeekiWater May 2019 #38
nope, they will only offer RW bills with poison pills inserted that will blow up in conference Celerity May 2019 #39
I really don't think you get the power of numbers. WeekiWater May 2019 #40
I think you vastly overrate Biden's power Celerity May 2019 #43
A leopard can't change its spots Politicub May 2019 #12
Nothing scares repubs more DownriverDem May 2019 #13
Has any repub ever been sorry for supporting Nixon? cynatnite May 2019 #14
won't happen, naive at best. nt yaesu May 2019 #15
Yeah if the Democrats hold the House and win the Senate and Presidency.... PoliticAverse May 2019 #16
Give me a break loyalsister May 2019 #17
Joe has to know the "Republican friends" he mentioned are NOT going to have this "epiphany" InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #23
Maybe he's idealistic loyalsister May 2019 #24
Me neither... but, this being Joe's 3rd Democratic primary race & given his time spent in InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #28
There is little to no redemption possible for the Republican Party. Laelth May 2019 #18
+1 Celerity May 2019 #44
Why would Joe say there'll "be an epiphany...among many of my Republican friends"?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #19
Delusional. Voltaire2 May 2019 #21
Did he sleep through the eight years of the Obama presidency??? rogue emissary May 2019 #22
Maybe he is actually trying to swing the minds of voters... republican voters Thekaspervote May 2019 #25
Merrick Garland would like a word robbedvoter May 2019 #26
+10000 Celerity May 2019 #36
We need a fighter, not a compromiser, we tried that before & look what happened. nt yaesu May 2019 #27
That's for sure!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #32
They don't want an epiphany- dawg day May 2019 #33
It depends what happens down ballot in 2020 Gothmog May 2019 #34
The ones who won't will die on the vine aand that will make a big impression on those pukes CTyankee May 2019 #37
Those days are long past sellitman May 2019 #42
I could vote for Joe Biden But In this he is sorely mistaken Vogon_Glory May 2019 #46
They'll have an epiphany when we restore the senate (D) Maru Kitteh May 2019 #47
This reminds me of when McConnell said he was going to make opposition to Obama his number 1 JudyM May 2019 #48
84/116 as of this posting PDittie May 2019 #49
And they say Biden is no longer the "Gaffer in Chief." earthshine May 2019 #50
The only things that will bring about an epiphany.... Thomas Hurt May 2019 #51
If they won't work with Biden then they aren't about to work with the others. LakeArenal May 2019 #52
Biden is a socialist and must be stopped BeyondGeography May 2019 #53
I like Joe CanonRay May 2019 #54
That will happen after Vladimir Putin Golden Raisin May 2019 #55
Has Biden been asleep for the last decade? Ace Rothstein May 2019 #56
He's dreaming, but the real Senate problem is the Mitch & Don show... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #57
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