Democratic Primaries

peggysue2

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14. Arrows incoming!!!

Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:23 PM

Mar 2019

Now that the evidence of Joey Biden actually running is in the 'yes, he's going to do it' category, the barrage begins.

Which shouldn't surprise anyone.

Uncle Joe has a long legislative and political legacy, both of which will be targeted by foes and friends alike. It's the nature of any campaign season. To Joe Biden's plus column, he's had years to fend off accusations and criticism. It really is all about how he defends his record, explains and reacts. His entry is going to deflate the expectations a lot of hopefuls. These stories coming out now may be an attempt to get Joe to reconsider.

But this is the sort of vetting all our candidates should be prepared for because it's going to be 10x worse in the General. If Donald Trump is the 2020 GOP candidate, he'll throw the kitchen sink at our nominee. Not merely to win but to save his own skin (or at least stall the inevitable) from the mounting criminal liability he and his family are facing.

I think Joe Biden still has juice. And if he truly has 'a fire in the belly,' these early assaults won't dissuade him from taking his last shot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden's tough talk on 1970s school desegregation plan (bussing) could get new scrutiny [View all] bigtree Mar 2019 OP

Hard to whitewash that. It's disappointing. Hoyt Mar 2019 #1

it's probably something he's already addressed bigtree Mar 2019 #3

Bussing was a failure. While the idea had it its heart in the right place, it in no way achieved still_one Mar 2019 #28

See my post #49 below, I agree madville Mar 2019 #52

Thank you for the details. It has the exact opposite effect of what it was suppose to do still_one Mar 2019 #63

Bussing definitely had . . . peggysue2 Mar 2019 #65

Jesse Jackson used to say "it's not the bus, it's us." DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #43

Arrest him! BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #2

so reporting this is the problem? bigtree Mar 2019 #6

I'm not sure what you mean BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #9

GETTING 'new scrutiny,' elleng Mar 2019 #4

I don't remember this in his last campaigns bigtree Mar 2019 #5

Funny flotsam Mar 2019 #7

of course you do bigtree Mar 2019 #8

He has had a few stumbles BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #10

I'm a child of the white suburbs bigtree Mar 2019 #12

There are lots of things to consider BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #20

interesting bigtree Mar 2019 #21

Is she running? BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #22

his won't be the first Democratic candidacy strategizing making certain voters comfortable bigtree Mar 2019 #23

Like Barack Obama? BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #24

yes bigtree Mar 2019 #26

That's 58 percent of 14 percent of the total population BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #29

this is about the Democratic nomination bigtree Mar 2019 #31

+1 BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #38

Wow. So pragmatic on race. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #47

This is basically talking about the same H.R. 40 bill that John Conyers had been introducing BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #25

It's funny about that clock.... LakeArenal Mar 2019 #40

Agreed. Just watching the mastery of Ms. Pelosi tells us that. Besides, things change.I grew up in OregonBlue Mar 2019 #80

44 years ago? W_HAMILTON Mar 2019 #11

great bigtree Mar 2019 #13

Arrows incoming!!! peggysue2 Mar 2019 #14

I think he might have lost a step bigtree Mar 2019 #16

For me, it's all about . . . peggysue2 Mar 2019 #17

Saw him speak on campus for Get Out The Vote. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #27

for whatever reason bigtree Mar 2019 #30

Exactly. I'm more interested in seeing Bernie's body of R B Garr Mar 2019 #32

No one voted for Obama because of Joe Biden rusty fender Mar 2019 #39

But he was vetted then by the public. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #41

Biden is the most qualified in the same way Hillary Clinton was the most qualified in 2016 peggysue2 Mar 2019 #64

Biden/Beto 2020. Experience and enthusiasm LakeArenal Mar 2019 #76

A definite possibility! peggysue2 Mar 2019 #85

I'm surprised that some seem to have not read about this before. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #15

A lot more troubling remarks to come? Perhaps you could focus on your own preference. WheelWalker Mar 2019 #56

I fixed the link. Just saying there's a long history of gaffes which will inevitably be brought up. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #61

I think a lot will have to do with whether or not dingbat runs Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #69

When has hypocrisy ever mattered to Republicans? Or to the media for that matter? Garrett78 Mar 2019 #82

Only when we do it. But you have to admit their Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #83

No not alone. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #86

Yikes. This is bad. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #18

Yeah these comments are reprehensible ZeroSomeBrains Mar 2019 #42

It's a terrible record workinclasszero Mar 2019 #58

He should run for VP on a ticket with a black candidate IronLionZion Mar 2019 #19

44 years ago? mcar Mar 2019 #33

what's a stretch? bigtree Mar 2019 #34

I would think so mcar Mar 2019 #35

no question bigtree Mar 2019 #36

You can only go back 44 years for essays. (Well 47 actually) Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #44

When it's Bernie it's called "vetting" otherwise it's called a distraction. Autumn Mar 2019 #77

I believe in evolution, but Joe Biden's got some explaining to do. Eugene Mar 2019 #37

No he doesnt' need to explain 50 years ago...I wonder if others might be expected to Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #75

this would probably help him in the GE JI7 Mar 2019 #45

The vituperative language is troubling. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #46

WTH? Is that what du admin meant this to be? A trashing Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #48

In the 80s I was bussed from a white suburb into a majority black school in the city madville Mar 2019 #49

Take emotion out. How will Harris win MI WI and PA? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #50

that's deflection bigtree Mar 2019 #53

Hmmm. Didn't think anyone could answer. If you look at state by state and you Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #55

this is about a Democratic primary bigtree Mar 2019 #57

That "snapshot of the past" includes 8 years of Obama-Biden. ucrdem Mar 2019 #67

Biden isn't Obama bigtree Mar 2019 #68

I think I'd rather take my chances in the infintessimal Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #70

it's a defensive crouch bigtree Mar 2019 #71

I totally get what you are saying. But not everyone Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #78

there are two basic ways to do that bigtree Mar 2019 #81

Very true. Of course we haven't heard what biden Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #84

Exactly right priorities. This election isn't about bussing. R B Garr Mar 2019 #60

Busing was a disaster SHRED Mar 2019 #51

Joe was right, maybe ahead of the times madville Mar 2019 #59

This statement goes way beyond the bussing issue. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #62

I believe Joe Biden can beat Tump. I do not believe that Sen. Sanders can do this... Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #73

I hate it when people post snippets from sites behind paywalls LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #54

Sure but would it hurt his chances? ucrdem Mar 2019 #66

You are grasping. This was 50 years ago...I will be for Biden the minute he announces because Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #72

And that is what makes Biden such a good candidate.. Peacetrain Mar 2019 #74

I doubt that there's a person out there over 50 Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #79

40 years of legislation will certainly deny perfection. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #87

we can pretend there aren't folks who don't talk like this, people who never uttered such nonsense bigtree Mar 2019 #88