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Response to empedocles (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:02 AM

7. Our nominee will be a liberal Democrat. That person should

 

always be both idealistic and pragmatic (i.e., commited to what is genuinely achievable) because they are both necessary to serving the people, including to advancing our nation's wellbeing as part of meeting big challenges.

Democratic voters have always, in a general collective wisdom (which I have belatedly come to believe exists), wanted both.

That's why Sanders won't win, idealism without proven achievement or ability. It's why Warren is doing as well as she is, in spite of RW efforts to destroy her for the past 8 years and more: idealism combined with proven achievement.

It's why candidates who present themselves pragmatically, who speak only of how their policy is better than another's, but without the lift of speaking often to ideals and aspiration, won't win. Of the candidates last night, only one really spoke to ideals, who we need to be as a people: Beto O'Rourke. But he lacks a pragmatic record of achievement and he won't win.

Tonight, Biden will almost certainly once again speak to both. Aspirations and ideals are the central theme of his campaign.

CNN will invite (compel) the others, Harris and Booker notably vying for the black monolith, to break out by attacking-defending, but if they go with that debate-forced compulsion, one or more may rise in the polls somewhat compared to the rest of the second and third tiers, but imo without calling for and identifying with liberal Democratic ideals that candidate will actually have lost.

We'll see.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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