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47. Imani Gandy.. He wasn't quoting anybody.

Reply to comradebillyboy (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:15 PM

Sep 2019

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He... needs to apologize, imo.

Thank you for bringing more attention to this, comradebillyboy. I can imagine if it were any other 2020 candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Should Bernie Sanders Have Used the N-Word to 'Critique Racism' in His Book? [View all] comradebillyboy Sep 2019 OP

Weak WA-03 Democrat Sep 2019 #1

No idea. crazytown Sep 2019 #2

Precisely. If he really cares about working Americans, he wouldn't separate out... George II Sep 2019 #4

I don't know how you're getting that from the mediate post. hedda_foil Sep 2019 #5

He could have said it without using the N word nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #8

Yes BS could have written it without Cha Sep 2019 #55

I would have to read the book crazytown Sep 2019 #10

Yes, it's a variation of an old LBJ quote. DrToast Sep 2019 #15

That's it. zentrum Sep 2019 #19

Johnson's quote predates Sanders by 30 years dsc Sep 2019 #54

I really don't think there's anything wrong with it in this context ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #79

This zentrum Sep 2019 #18

Agreed and I am not even a Bernie supporter. cstanleytech Sep 2019 #21

those whites chose racism . JI7 Sep 2019 #29

LBJ said the same thing without invoking the N word treestar Sep 2019 #32

He didn't have to use the N word ... I think it is a dog whistle nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #6

That's right.. it's hurtful.. most Cha Sep 2019 #60

Then you don't know what a dog whistle is...n/t TCJ70 Sep 2019 #61

I know what it is and in this case, the shoe fits. nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #64

It's clear that what he's saying is "Out of ALL White Workers" ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #77

Use of that word was unnecessary. George II Sep 2019 #3

Should Harper Lee have written the n word? pnwpolicy Sep 2019 #7

Harper Lee is not running for POTUS nor was she an elected official. nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #9

I must have missed the part where Harper Lee was alive and running for president. BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #16

Precisely. Cha Sep 2019 #44

Sorry. this has Nothing to do with Harper Lee. Cha Sep 2019 #43

Should artists and politicians maintain precisely the same standards of usage in all things? LanternWaste Sep 2019 #85

No Gothmog Sep 2019 #11

I see a lot of Biden threads where people say what he did in the past doesn't matter. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #12

It was OK to use the N-word n 1997? I think not. comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #14

I didn't say OK. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #24

There was no "pretty serious debate" in the 90s about this. BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #20

Yes there was. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #26

Whatever makes you happy. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #27

It makes me happy when people don't try to justify racial slurs BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #30

I'm not justifying racial slurs. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #31

Ironic you allege others look desperate. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #35

Creating a strawman looks desperate. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #37

No, you don't get to accuse him of looking "desperate". Cha Sep 2019 #45

Yeah, actually I do. That's how discussion boards work. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #49

Yeah.. because you have nothing but Cha Sep 2019 #50

So you clearly haven't read my responses, because I have more than insults. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #56

No one is "desperate" as you accuse. Cha Sep 2019 #58

So committing a fallacy as an argument isn't desperate? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #62

He needs to apologize for using Cha Sep 2019 #65

So you're conceding the use of fallacies is desperate. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #66

well that's quite over generalized treestar Sep 2019 #33

And re-released in 2015 with an audio version - that OK too? n/t seaglass Sep 2019 #36

Are you opposed to Huck Finn as a full audio version? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #38

Bernie Sanders is no Mark Twain lol. I'm opposed to Bernie using that word when others would have seaglass Sep 2019 #41

Your WhatABout is NOT working. Cha Sep 2019 #46

That isn't whataboutism. Nice try, though. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #57

BS was wrong to write the hurtful Cha Sep 2019 #59

You're avoiding the question. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #63

Why would it not be? N/t TCJ70 Sep 2019 #48

I (allege to) see a lot of things as well. It does not imply they are all of one collective. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #87

Simply NO! just no.. Peacetrain Sep 2019 #13

This is disqualifying. BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #17

It's clear he's critiquing zentrum Sep 2019 #22

I don't see anything wrong with it... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #25

i thought it was worse in that he seemed to be making excuses for white racists JI7 Sep 2019 #28

Not a Bernie fan. But I have no problem with this academic evaluation of US history or Bernie's use LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #34

I don't know if a lot of serious writers were using the euphemism of n-word yet in 1997. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #39

There were plenty of better alternatives even then...nt comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #40

Hell No.. not according to more than a few POC Cha Sep 2019 #42

I know... he has certainly reinforced a certain perception that many have about him. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #76

Imani Gandy.. He wasn't quoting anybody. Cha Sep 2019 #47

Ohferchrissakes-- why even ask? It was 1997 and white people using that word was just... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #51

Barack Obama used it three years ago on a podcast RhodeIslandOne Sep 2019 #71

Barack Obama is not white. And, context matters. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #72

But you just said rappers and such are moving away from it RhodeIslandOne Sep 2019 #73

I don't think Sanders should have Cha Sep 2019 #74

I agree with Cha Gothmog Sep 2019 #75

Thanks Goth.. it's Cha Sep 2019 #88

This is a hit piece - simple as that. A nothing burger. Joe941 Sep 2019 #52

BS didn't need to write the hurtful Cha Sep 2019 #53

He wasn't critiquing racism... SidDithers Sep 2019 #67

exactly , i see that as the bigger problem than use of the N word itself which maybe could JI7 Sep 2019 #68

This. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #83

He highlighted the use of bigotry to divide and conquer Bradical79 Sep 2019 #84

Bingo. MrsCoffee Sep 2019 #89

Why does Sanders view White Racists as the Victims of RAcism ? JI7 Sep 2019 #69

Yes, why do they get the benefit of the doubt? betsuni Sep 2019 #70

I think they shouldn't Bradical79 Sep 2019 #86

I think it was to endear his base which is 99% white nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #78

Done it myself to make a point. Nothing else so succinctly Hortensis Sep 2019 #80

So. Everyone on this thread read the book Srkdqltr Sep 2019 #81

No, and the fact that people think it's okay to use it to "critique racism" shows how much work WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #82

KICK! Cha Oct 2019 #90