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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts) Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:48 PM Nov 2019

ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ CALLS OUT PETE BUTTIGIEG FOR 'SAD' ARGUMENT AGAINST FREE COLLEGE FOR ALL IN [View all]

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"Universal systems that benefit everyone are stronger [because] everyone's invested!," Ocasio-Cortez added.

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The congresswoman then argued that when certain people—in this case, Buttigieg's "kids of millionaires"—are deliberately excluded from public services, "cracks in the system develop."

Furthermore, the legislator argued, children from rich families often want to attend private "Ivyesque" universities, which would not be covered by "tuition-free public college."

Ocasio-Cortez added that it would be beneficial "to have classrooms (from pre-k through college!) to be socioeconomically integrated. Having students from different incomes & backgrounds in the same classroom is good for society & economic mobility."

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https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-calls-out-pete-buttigieg-sad-argument-against-tuition-free-college-new-1474809

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ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ CALLS OUT PETE BUTTIGIEG FOR 'SAD' ARGUMENT AGAINST FREE COLLEGE FOR ALL IN [View all] Uncle Joe Nov 2019 OP

Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2019 #1

I feel the same way H2O Man. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #9

Same here! FiveGoodMen Nov 2019 #13

Me three! JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #14

She's my kind of Democrat as well, H20 Man. democrank Nov 2019 #41

What does "socioeconomically integrated" mean? George II Nov 2019 #2

who knows evertonfc Nov 2019 #3

Students of varying socioeconomic status bluedye33139 Nov 2019 #4

Yep. H2O Man Nov 2019 #10

I can't help but think there is a certain amount dflprincess Nov 2019 #36

Not hidden. Deliberately obtuse. Lucky Luciano Nov 2019 #38

. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #7

Many thanks but my head is still spinning erlewyne Nov 2019 #22

"The Benefits of Socioeconomically and Racially Integrated Schools and Classrooms" Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #8

So if a neighborhood isn't "socioeconomically integrated", is she calling for forced busing? George II Nov 2019 #11

Not to universities or trade schools, which is what the issue in this OP is about. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #16

The bottom line, however, is that Buttigieg's take on "Free College for All".... George II Nov 2019 #18

So far you have presented absolutely no rebuttals to the actual substance of the argument Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #19

You're correct. It's a flawed argument so can't really be "rebutted"..... George II Nov 2019 #20

"A flawed argument....can't be rebutted" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #40

An opinion unsupported by evidence is an assertion, not an argument. lapucelle Nov 2019 #28

An opinion supported by logic and historical evidence to which your post doesn't rebut either. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #29

Pete's plan doesn't exclude anyone from public services. N/T lapucelle Nov 2019 #31

Bernie's plan would make colleges and trade schools tuition free regardless of income, Pete does not Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #35

That doesn't change the fact that Pete's plan does not exclude anyone from public services. N/T lapucelle Nov 2019 #50

This is someone whose family moved from a "socioeconomically integrated" neighborhood.... George II Nov 2019 #47

you dont have to bus anyone who doesnt want to be bused. mopinko Nov 2019 #17

How do you define "forced busing"? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #56

If you google search 'education pays' you will come to a bar graph from PatrickforO Nov 2019 #51

Tennessee evertonfc Nov 2019 #5

I'm a boring centrist by inclination but I agree with her bluedye33139 Nov 2019 #6

Wow. All caps! cwydro Nov 2019 #12

And he pressed the keys with great emphasis. grantcart Nov 2019 #23

It's a Newsweek thing BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #27

Yes, all caps. I thought a little overdone, eh? NT SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #42

Then she should be calling out others as well. madaboutharry Nov 2019 #15

Well, the answer to this is apparent to me. Inspired Nov 2019 #25

More divisive BS FreeState Nov 2019 #21

We are. It feels of desperation grantcart Nov 2019 #24

I expect nothing different Inspired Nov 2019 #26

" ...deliberately excluded from public services, "cracks in the system develop." " myohmy2 Nov 2019 #30

How is anyone being excluded from a public service? lapucelle Nov 2019 #32

She's a good person to have in the Congress. wryter2000 Nov 2019 #33

And when did free college for ANYONE become a GOP talking point? ChiTownDenny Nov 2019 #37

the takeaway here is that it's EW, BS and AOC who set the dialogue AlexSFCA Nov 2019 #34

This is a bit of a red herring anyway Happy Hoosier Nov 2019 #39

Bernie is also for expanding Pell Grants, if that helps. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #44

That helps some. Happy Hoosier Nov 2019 #45

the investment in higher education has been in steady decline for a long time. why does pete sound Kurt V. Nov 2019 #43

Yup to the point where repukes call anyone with an education an elite. Joe941 Nov 2019 #54

Some here are offended by her "edge" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #46

I agree LiberalLovinLug Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #52

True and +. Everything can't be means tested. Highways Prosper Dec 2019 #55

So we need free college for rich kids so Ivy League schools stay "integrated"... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #48

I think this went way over your head. Lucky Luciano Nov 2019 #53

I see an issue with that type of treestar Nov 2019 #49

AOC left the LGBTQ community out of the list of marginalized groups in the Green New Deal Politicub Dec 2019 #57