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In reply to the discussion: Centrists say this is proof Sanders or Warren can't win. They're wrong [View all]Gothmog
(154,927 posts)7. Blowback from U.K. election burns Warren, Sanders
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Its a lesson for all Democrats who are eager to replace Trump, said former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel. There was no skimping on the progressive agenda and it was the worst performance in two decades. Its not just economics. You have to have a candidate and a message thats close to the zeitgeist of the moment not just a grab bag of giveaways.
The thoroughness of Corbyns thrashing revived the longstanding debate within the party over just how ambitious the Democratic agenda should be, and provided fresh ammunition for the arguments of moderates who contend that if the party backs Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, the primarys leading progressives, theyll lose the Rust Belt and perhaps even elsewhere.....
"Corbyn was basically a satellite project for Bernie world. If there is one lesson to be gleaned from the devastating loss across the pond, it's that we need more than just soaring rhetoric backed up by bravado of organizing, said Murshed Zaheed, a Megaphone Strategies partner and former Harry Reid aide backing Warren. We need to have leaders who have crystal-clear analysis of how to solve problems and leverage power to achieve those solutions. Corbyn never appeared to be a candidate with any sound plans on how to move U.K. forward.
Before the polls closed on Thursday, Sanders national organizing director, Claire Sandberg, had tweeted that the Bernie team says #VoteLabour with a picture attached of campaign staff. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a top congressional ally who has campaigned with Sanders in Iowa, also tweeted in support of Labour. Two 2016 aides to Sanders, Becky Bond and Zack Malitz, had traveled to London earlier this year to help the pro-Corbyn group Momentum as well.
The thoroughness of Corbyns thrashing revived the longstanding debate within the party over just how ambitious the Democratic agenda should be, and provided fresh ammunition for the arguments of moderates who contend that if the party backs Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, the primarys leading progressives, theyll lose the Rust Belt and perhaps even elsewhere.....
"Corbyn was basically a satellite project for Bernie world. If there is one lesson to be gleaned from the devastating loss across the pond, it's that we need more than just soaring rhetoric backed up by bravado of organizing, said Murshed Zaheed, a Megaphone Strategies partner and former Harry Reid aide backing Warren. We need to have leaders who have crystal-clear analysis of how to solve problems and leverage power to achieve those solutions. Corbyn never appeared to be a candidate with any sound plans on how to move U.K. forward.
Before the polls closed on Thursday, Sanders national organizing director, Claire Sandberg, had tweeted that the Bernie team says #VoteLabour with a picture attached of campaign staff. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a top congressional ally who has campaigned with Sanders in Iowa, also tweeted in support of Labour. Two 2016 aides to Sanders, Becky Bond and Zack Malitz, had traveled to London earlier this year to help the pro-Corbyn group Momentum as well.
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Centrists say this is proof Sanders or Warren can't win. They're wrong [View all]
BlueMTexpat
Dec 2019
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In order to win a general, we need a moderate for the states that are must win states...MI,
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#2
She was destroyed by the GOP ...had nothing to do with right or left...but her emails...
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#8
Bernie was never vetted and would have lost in 16 (general) and will lose in 20 as well. We
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#14
No it hasn't and if there was an appetitie for the left...it would show up in the states and the
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#27
OK let's ignore every election for the past 40 years and pretend you are right. nt
Gore1FL
Dec 2019
#33
I am not ignoring past elections . We are winning with moderates and that is reality.
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#40
And it only took a lame duck president with a 26 % approval rate and a failing economy.
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#43
The data doesn't back your claims. But feel free to make the same mistake over and over.
Gore1FL
Dec 2019
#46
UK politics are hard to directly compare to.ours, but Corbyn's support
Dark n Stormy Knight
Dec 2019
#5
"All the top tier candidates can beat Trump, and don't have that vulnerability."
stopdiggin
Dec 2019
#19
So not true...you have to be able to win the rust belt and Warren, Sanders won't end of story.
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#22
Last poll I saw showed Sanders beating Trump by more than Biden in 2/3 Rust Belt states
Fiendish Thingy
Dec 2019
#34
There were only two candidates...and AA wanted to support him if he could win...and they like both
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#59
Warren cant win because people dont like to be told "I know what you need, you dont"
oldsoftie
Dec 2019
#17
What I don't like about Warren repeatedly contending that no one likes his or her plan is that
emmaverybo
Dec 2019
#54
Here are some eye popping numbers that say Dems are looking at the more centurist view
Thekaspervote
Dec 2019
#21
Forget all that the proof is in the swing states ! Didya hear Biden is leading dump in
UniteFightBack
Dec 2019
#23
I have a lot of reasons why Sanders and Warren can't win, and none of them involve the UK
LongtimeAZDem
Dec 2019
#25
Yeah...no....I'm not going to take the Guardian as my source for..anything
AncientGeezer
Dec 2019
#26