Democratic Primaries

Gore1FL

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20. I've been hearing this since 1988. It's been tested a number of times.

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:17 PM

Dec 2019

It mostly fails. Yet, in 2008, we defied the "safe choice" argument and won 365 electoral votes.

Excitement wins elections, not centrism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Centrists say this is proof Sanders or Warren can't win. They're wrong [View all] BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 OP

Corbyn's Defeat Is a Warning Sign to the Left bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #1

Nah. This isn't about the 1968 generation at all. KPN Dec 2019 #11

What society wants bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #16

What do you think the Democratic left is? KPN Dec 2019 #31

You vastly assume I know what you're talking about bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #32

The UK election BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #35

In order to win a general, we need a moderate for the states that are must win states...MI, Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #2

How did the Dem moderate candidate do in those states in 2016? nt Doremus Dec 2019 #6

She was destroyed by the GOP ...had nothing to do with right or left...but her emails... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #8

Hard for me to understand, gab13by13 Dec 2019 #10

+1! KPN Dec 2019 #13

Bernie was never vetted and would have lost in 16 (general) and will lose in 20 as well. We Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #14

have a very hard time seeing Sanders win 2016 stopdiggin Dec 2019 #15

The country is center left. I don't believe Sanders would have won in 16. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #44

In the GE, she was also tripped by the extreme left NYMinute Dec 2019 #41

I will never forgive them for this. I despise Stein and all her minions. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #45

I've been hearing this since 1988. It's been tested a number of times. Gore1FL Dec 2019 #20

No it hasn't and if there was an appetitie for the left...it would show up in the states and the Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #27

OK let's ignore every election for the past 40 years and pretend you are right. nt Gore1FL Dec 2019 #33

I am not ignoring past elections . We are winning with moderates and that is reality. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #40

And it only took a lame duck president with a 26 % approval rate and a failing economy. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #43

The data doesn't back your claims. But feel free to make the same mistake over and over. Gore1FL Dec 2019 #46

It's a campaign narrative. Little more. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #3

Only Sanders can lose worse than McGovern nt NYMinute Dec 2019 #42

We certainly should not over read the UK judeling Dec 2019 #4

UK politics are hard to directly compare to.ours, but Corbyn's support Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2019 #5

Blowback from U.K. election burns Warren, Sanders Gothmog Dec 2019 #7

Fear based speculation that omits critical facts Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #9

"All the top tier candidates can beat Trump, and don't have that vulnerability." stopdiggin Dec 2019 #19

So not true...you have to be able to win the rust belt and Warren, Sanders won't end of story. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #22

Last poll I saw showed Sanders beating Trump by more than Biden in 2/3 Rust Belt states Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #34

That is just not true...abd he doesn't do well with AA voters Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #36

Latest polls show Biden losing support with AA voters in SC nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #52

Polls show no such thing actually... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #58

Obama won now didnt he? Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #39

Obama was 20+ points behind Hillary in December 2007 Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #51

There were only two candidates...and AA wanted to support him if he could win...and they like both Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #59

I very specifically agree BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #47

Washington Post-It's easy to see how Trump can win reelection Gothmog Dec 2019 #53

Other than your own lens, what specifically leads you to allege fear? LanternWaste Dec 2019 #57

The UK election was about Brexit, not the whole Tory program. Odoreida Dec 2019 #12

You are completely misreadinng this. Corbyn ran on Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #38

Warren cant win because people dont like to be told "I know what you need, you dont" oldsoftie Dec 2019 #17

What I don't like about Warren repeatedly contending that no one likes his or her plan is that emmaverybo Dec 2019 #54

I have no idea how anyone can set aside Gillum's 46% and Abrams' 42% Awsi Dooger Dec 2019 #18

You are exactly right which is why I am lukewarm about impeachment. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #37

Here are some eye popping numbers that say Dems are looking at the more centurist view Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #21

Forget all that the proof is in the swing states ! Didya hear Biden is leading dump in UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #23

Untapped votes are people under 35 mjvpi Dec 2019 #24

I have a lot of reasons why Sanders and Warren can't win, and none of them involve the UK LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #25

Yeah...no....I'm not going to take the Guardian as my source for..anything AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #26

Welcome to America! (we're NOT British!) tberry65 Dec 2019 #28

With a president like we elected, you might not want to throw stones LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #30

See my response below. BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #50

lol fail ! stonecutter357 Dec 2019 #29

lol, not! BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #48

Having read through the BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #49

It seems that is usually the case. redqueen Dec 2019 #55

... BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #56