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bluedye33139

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19. ISKCON repudiated Chris Butler
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:02 AM
Dec 2019

The only piece he took from them was the belief that a bona fide guru can overcome karma for his followers. They blanket reject every belief of the international society for Krishna consciousness, and people raised in the cult have reported that they never read the Vedas or gitas or engaged in any Hindu holiday observance. They had Christmas trees, and they listened to Chris Butler's sermons on random topics.

I've never joined them because I do not like religious fundamentalism. Last year, for instance, I was reading one of Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada's books and loving it, and then I happened to read an interview with a ISKCON cleric decreeing that it was blasphemy to say that the lunar eclipse was a physical phenomenon caused by the shadow of the earth. Rather, we are required to believe that a demon has eaten the moon temporarily. Literally. And that kind of fundamentalism never makes me happy.

ISKCON has a mixed history. Lots of wonderful, wonderful spiritual seekers. Lots of authoritarian abuse.

Edit: also the doctrine that they cannot associate with people who are not members.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
This story is disturbing Gothmog Dec 2019 #1
Cooper is also affiliated with the Kremlin bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #3
That is so bizarre PatSeg Dec 2019 #23
Some folks determine qualification by LOYALTY ONLY OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #2
She gets weirder everyday underpants Dec 2019 #4
I don't think she works for the Kremlin myself bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #6
Yes, that's how I see it PatSeg Dec 2019 #24
Holy Shit, I had no idea she was involved in something like that. njhoneybadger Dec 2019 #5
Deeply involved. Blue_true Dec 2019 #31
Be careful, there's people out in force who are VERY CONCERNED about speaking ill of her nt sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #7
Today they seem to have slithered back under the rock bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #8
Many of us bear the scars for nothing more than mildly critical comments. hlthe2b Dec 2019 #10
Because of my history with ISKCON, I know how to grapple with the cult bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #14
Good for you!!! PatSeg Dec 2019 #25
Yeah, times have really changed from that.. Cha Dec 2019 #28
+1,000 hlthe2b Dec 2019 #9
Well, this is alarming. Check out this Venn diagram: catbyte Dec 2019 #11
Nice diagram. I did not know any of this. PatrickforO Dec 2019 #20
When that 3:00 AM call comes in, Tulsi will answer 'present'. keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #12
I hear people posit that she's planning on running as a third party candidate. ehrnst Dec 2019 #13
Science of Identity cult is an off shoot of Hare Krishna Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #15
ISKCON repudiated Chris Butler bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #19
WE have many good options. In my need to prioritize the list some won't make my prioritized ones. usaf-vet Dec 2019 #16
Nope, won't forget about her impeachment treachery. lark Dec 2019 #17
Bookmarking this whole thread. calimary Dec 2019 #18
what cult is it that she is in? gopiscrap Dec 2019 #21
Science of identity bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #22
I'm sure all this is not widely known! colorado_ufo Dec 2019 #26
Guess who defends Tulsi OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #27
Like endorsing cenk.. not a good look. Cha Dec 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #30
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