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LongtimeAZDem

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18. They do explain their methodology:
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jan 2020
Differentiator 1: We adjust state polls based on trends in national polls

A hallmark of our general election forecasts, dating all the way back to our first versions in 2008, is what we call a “trend line adjustment.” Basically, in states that haven’t been polled recently, we make inferences about what’s going on there using national polls or polls from other states that have been surveyed recently. If President Trump gained 3 percentage points in national polls, for instance, but North Carolina hadn’t been polled recently, you could probably infer that he’d also gained 3 points, or thereabouts, in North Carolina.

We apply this adjustment for a good reason: Trend-line-adjusted averages have been quite a bit more accurate, historically. That is, once someone does get around to polling North Carolina, it usually turns out that Trump did gain about 3 points. Trend-line-adjusted averages have also been insightful so far this cycle — they anticipated, for instance, that Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s numbers would decline in state polls in November and early December once she began to slump in national polls.

So we’re now applying a slightly simplified version1 of the trend line adjustment to the primaries. (Note that all polling averages you see on our state polling pages reflect this trend line adjustment.) Say that Sen. Cory Booker has surged by 5 points in national polls, for instance, but we haven’t seen a recent poll in Nevada. Our average would assume that he’d also improved his standing by 5 points in Nevada, other things held equal.

There are a few complications: For instance, the adjustment is nonlinear, which can have meaningful effects if a candidate is polling in the low single digits. But in short, the trend line adjustment can have fairly large effects if a state hasn’t been polled much recently. It doesn’t affect our numbers much, conversely, if there are a lot of recent, high-quality polls from that state.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-makes-our-new-2020-democratic-primary-polling-averages-different/
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Suddenly, Biden leads in Iowa! [View all] beastie boy Jan 2020 OP
It's a blitzkrieg! getagrip_already Jan 2020 #1
There will likely be an even division of delegates coming out of Iowa, and the current positions LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #2
I just picturted the view of someone who is not a lead dog. beastie boy Jan 2020 #5
The latest poll shown seems to be from Dec 19 redqueen Jan 2020 #3
The chart at the link shows standings as of January 2 beastie boy Jan 2020 #6
But with no new Iowa polls - how had anything changed? redqueen Jan 2020 #7
It's explained at the top; it's a moving average, less recent numbers have less weight LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #15
No January 2nd... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #8
That's the date of the average. redqueen Jan 2020 #10
"accounting for each poll's quality, sample size and recency" LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #12
You beat me to it...I was going to say that too...the same is true in New Hampshire by the way Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #16
They do explain their methodology: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #18
Very interesting...we should see some polls in Iowa soon too. But I think 538 is brilliant and trust Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #20
As more candidates drop out and as things become more frightening around the world redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #4
mine too. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #9
I think redqueen is correct. I believe that this is how I saw things on 538... Sloumeau Jan 2020 #11
It has moved...My guess is national polls are also figured in...biden is ahead 10 points or more in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #13
Older poll numbers are aged out LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #14
More than a surge according to some. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #17
Alrighty now!!! Peacetrain Jan 2020 #19
Certainly a 'surge' by Biden supporters in this thread. empedocles Jan 2020 #21
:D LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #22
Yep...this is good news for Biden. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #23
It's being reported that there's a Seltzer/DMR poll in the field... brooklynite Jan 2020 #24
Where is it being reported...not doubting you but I don't see it. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #25
I am hoping that there will be a slew of new polls out on Monday. StevieM Jan 2020 #27
I posted some updates figures...538 has a way to update using national trends and Algorithms...been Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #28
It just doesn't feel the same as new polls. StevieM Jan 2020 #29
I agree...waiting for new polls. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #30
The holidays are over and people are getting serious. RandySF Jan 2020 #26
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