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In reply to the discussion: Fred Guttenberg harsh words for Bernie [View all]lapucelle
(18,186 posts)39. Only one of those people is running for president.
Why is it weird for Feinstein to have missed that vote? Why would Feinstein have been ''conflicted''? She has a solid record on gun safety issues.
https://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Dianne_Feinstein_Gun_Control.htm
How Gunmakers Dealt Themselves a Get-Out-of-Jail Free Card
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), passed in 2005 and signed into law by President George W. Bush, insulates gun makers from any responsibility for the carnage their product causes.
Everybody knew it was shilling for the NRA, says Jim Kessler, who at the time was with Americans for Gun Safety. It was a gift to the gun industry. It was like passing a bill to grant immunity to the pharmaceutical or tobacco industry. It was no better.
Kessler watched the vote on C-Span. You could see senators looking at their Blackberries on the Senate floor, and (then) all but eight voted to kill it, he says. They had got their orders from the NRA to tank the bill because gun safety advocates working with John McCain had added two amendments to the bill. One, sponsored by McCain, closed the gun-show loophole, the other, sponsored by Dianne Feinstein, extended the assault weapons ban, which after 10 years was expiring.
Once those amendments were added to the bill, the NRA withdrew its support. That was round one, says Kessler.
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), passed in 2005 and signed into law by President George W. Bush, insulates gun makers from any responsibility for the carnage their product causes.
Everybody knew it was shilling for the NRA, says Jim Kessler, who at the time was with Americans for Gun Safety. It was a gift to the gun industry. It was like passing a bill to grant immunity to the pharmaceutical or tobacco industry. It was no better.
Kessler watched the vote on C-Span. You could see senators looking at their Blackberries on the Senate floor, and (then) all but eight voted to kill it, he says. They had got their orders from the NRA to tank the bill because gun safety advocates working with John McCain had added two amendments to the bill. One, sponsored by McCain, closed the gun-show loophole, the other, sponsored by Dianne Feinstein, extended the assault weapons ban, which after 10 years was expiring.
Once those amendments were added to the bill, the NRA withdrew its support. That was round one, says Kessler.
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Then Bush won reelection, and the Senate was once again in Republican hands. With the support of the NRA, Republicans brought up the PLCAA again.
This time, with the Democrats in the minority, the gun safety amendments werent in the bill, and it easily passed the Senate and the House. Bernie Sanders was in the House at the time, getting ready to run for the Senate, and he voted for the bill.
If you read what he said about the bill, it was the talking points of the NRA, that the gun industry shouldnt be held responsible for people misusing their product, says Kessler, Thats the corporatist view.
This time, with the Democrats in the minority, the gun safety amendments werent in the bill, and it easily passed the Senate and the House. Bernie Sanders was in the House at the time, getting ready to run for the Senate, and he voted for the bill.
If you read what he said about the bill, it was the talking points of the NRA, that the gun industry shouldnt be held responsible for people misusing their product, says Kessler, Thats the corporatist view.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-gunmakers-dealt-themselves-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card
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Can he work those things into the same mini-stump speech he answers every debate question with?
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2020
#11
1.Killing is an intended use of a gun. 2. industries can be liable for misuse--like opioid makers
Julian English
Feb 2020
#27
''I am sick and tired of candidates who have shown that they are afraid of the NRA''...
lapucelle
Feb 2020
#37
Is Fred Guttenberg on the Bloomberg payroll? Directly or indirectly through...
aikoaiko
Feb 2020
#10
It's a question for sure. Meanwhile March For Our Lives Co-Founders Endorsed Bernie.
Nanjeanne
Feb 2020
#13
He's gone after Sanders and his pro-gun history long before Bloomberg was a thing.
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2020
#14
Oh please. He turned into an anti-gun activist when his daughter was murdered in a school shooting.
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2020
#21
The PLCAA was introduced at the behest of the gun industry and National Rifle Association
lapucelle
Feb 2020
#33