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lapucelle

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39. Only one of those people is running for president.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:10 PM
Feb 2020

Why is it weird for Feinstein to have missed that vote? Why would Feinstein have been ''conflicted''? She has a solid record on gun safety issues.

https://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Dianne_Feinstein_Gun_Control.htm


How Gunmakers Dealt Themselves a Get-Out-of-Jail Free Card

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), passed in 2005 and signed into law by President George W. Bush, insulates gun makers from any responsibility for the carnage their product causes.

“Everybody knew it was shilling for the NRA,” says Jim Kessler, who at the time was with Americans for Gun Safety. “It was a gift to the gun industry. It was like passing a bill to grant immunity to the pharmaceutical or tobacco industry. It was no better.”

Kessler watched the vote on C-Span. “You could see senators looking at their Blackberries on the Senate floor, and (then) all but eight voted to kill it,” he says. They had got their orders from the NRA to tank the bill because gun safety advocates working with John McCain had added two amendments to the bill. One, sponsored by McCain, closed the gun-show loophole, the other, sponsored by Dianne Feinstein, extended the assault weapons ban, which after 10 years was expiring.

Once those amendments were added to the bill, the NRA withdrew its support. “That was round one,” says Kessler.

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Then Bush won reelection, and the Senate was once again in Republican hands. With the support of the NRA, Republicans brought up the PLCAA again.

This time, with the Democrats in the minority, the gun safety amendments weren’t in the bill, and it easily passed the Senate and the House. Bernie Sanders was in the House at the time, getting ready to run for the Senate, and he voted for the bill.

“If you read what he said about the bill, it was the talking points of the NRA, that the gun industry shouldn’t be held responsible for people misusing their product,” says Kessler, “That’s the corporatist view.”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-gunmakers-dealt-themselves-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Wow Fred saying Bernie is being backed by Russia?? That will go well! jmg257 Feb 2020 #1
Fred Guttenberg speaks for me! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #2
Bernie will advocate for banning assault weapons and universal background checks JFlash Feb 2020 #3
Can he work those things into the same mini-stump speech he answers every debate question with? W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #11
Can he undo his vote to give gunmakers blanket immunity? Blue_true Feb 2020 #17
What other industry is held liable for misuse of their product? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #25
The Pharmaceutical industry. The consumer drug industry. To name two. Blue_true Feb 2020 #26
1.Killing is an intended use of a gun. 2. industries can be liable for misuse--like opioid makers Julian English Feb 2020 #27
Good on Fred Guttenberg! Cha Feb 2020 #4
+1 n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #5
Whoosh! peggysue2 Feb 2020 #6
Seriously, who is Fred Guttenberg? PADemD Feb 2020 #7
Fred Guttenberg's daughter was murdered at the Parkland mass shooting. octoberlib Feb 2020 #15
Wow. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #18
: onecaliberal Feb 2020 #31
Uh oh HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #8
Fact check wundermaus Feb 2020 #9
I missed something Butterflylady Feb 2020 #28
''I am sick and tired of candidates who have shown that they are afraid of the NRA''... lapucelle Feb 2020 #37
My vote is for The Brady Bill, against the PLCAA, lapucelle Feb 2020 #35
Is Fred Guttenberg on the Bloomberg payroll? Directly or indirectly through... aikoaiko Feb 2020 #10
It's a question for sure. Meanwhile March For Our Lives Co-Founders Endorsed Bernie. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #13
He's gone after Sanders and his pro-gun history long before Bloomberg was a thing. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #14
Bloomberg has been funding activists for a much longer time. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #19
Oh please. He turned into an anti-gun activist when his daughter was murdered in a school shooting. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #21
Yes, and now Bloomberg is running for the Democratic nomination. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #22
Yes because a father who lost their child to gun violence Moderateguy Feb 2020 #16
He has been against Bernie on guns from the beginning. Blue_true Feb 2020 #20
His bitterness toward Bernie seems to originate from him challenging HRC aikoaiko Feb 2020 #23
He may have been for HRC. Bernie's role on guns was a issue then. Blue_true Feb 2020 #24
Really!!!!!! Butterflylady Feb 2020 #29
I wouldn't be surprised to find out he is n/t Devil Child Feb 2020 #34
Fred has been getting pounder by Bernie supporters... JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #12
Lol, hey Fred looks like voters are quite comfortable with Sen. Sanders! Devil Child Feb 2020 #30
''Let's laugh at Fred Guttenberg''. lapucelle Feb 2020 #42
No sarcasm tag needed AFAIC Devil Child Feb 2020 #43
Then don't use one when you post. lapucelle Feb 2020 #45
NRA: PLCAA is the most signigicant Piece of pro-gun legislation in 20 years lapucelle Feb 2020 #32
The PLCAA was introduced at the behest of the gun industry and National Rifle Association lapucelle Feb 2020 #33
Passed with the help of 14 Democratic Senators and Bernie. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #38
Only one of those people is running for president. lapucelle Feb 2020 #39
True, and I support Bernie's vote. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #40
So to recap... lapucelle Feb 2020 #41
K&R highplainsdem Feb 2020 #36
K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #44
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