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22. Agreed
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:19 PM
Apr 2019

But as you point out they can and have spoiled. I think many of them have reached the conclusion that centrist Democrats have a "like it or leave" attitude. If centrist Democrats can't find a way to work with the progressives we must face continued electoral losses.

As you point out, centrists outnumber the more left leaning side. Looking at it from the left side, it seems like the centrist Democrats enter all negotiations by leaving out all the lefts positions. That is a negotiate from the center to the right stance. I imagine it's pretty hard for a left leaning person to argue that the Democratic party has any progressive wing from that perspective.

I'm not arguing that the left doesn't need to compromise, but I am arguing that the center should look at how they act and decide if their position is "compromise" or "submit."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
It is the truth. yardwork Apr 2019 #1
Yes. This is the truth. My post is ugly, mean, very sad, but the truth. Stuart G Apr 2019 #2
I agree absolutely! The Democratic Nominee is OUR nominee. NO EXCEPTIONS. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #39
Yes, we vote blue no matter who. FM123 Apr 2019 #3
Yes, I will vote blue no matter who., I will vote blue, no matter who..(again) Stuart G Apr 2019 #4
When did Nader and Stein get considered "our party"? lostnfound Apr 2019 #5
I found the post...the post that proves is number 5 by Cha in this series at this link Stuart G Apr 2019 #6
This will raise everyone's ire plimsoll Apr 2019 #7
Yes, Obama's comments yesterday make sense to me. Stuart G Apr 2019 #8
My second paragraph is in response to a Rahm Emanuel statement plimsoll Apr 2019 #11
There are more centrists than left left...they can spoil and have...but Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #16
Agreed plimsoll Apr 2019 #22
Well,they need to increase their numbers by winning hearts and minds. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #23
Absolutely! plimsoll Apr 2019 #26
The progressive side is in the minority because they have not convince enogh people. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32
So your answer is submit? plimsoll Apr 2019 #34
My solution is win anyway we can while working on hearts and minds. Losing sets back Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #35
I think we're agreeing plimsoll Apr 2019 #14
Every time this comes up I'm always left to wonder... TCJ70 Apr 2019 #9
Exactly the point I'm trying to make. plimsoll Apr 2019 #13
It is not a win or lose situation. We need to run on winning issues. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #17
What do any of us gain if Trump wins again? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #19
Th question really is are there more centrists than progressives. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
what does that even mean ? they are voting for the more liberal candidate JI7 Apr 2019 #25
Corporate donations I would imagine. jalan48 Apr 2019 #27
Exactly. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #33
i agree nader should not have run. also nader has saved thousands of lives. so there's that. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #10
Good Point...., "also nader has saved thousands of lives. so there's that." Stuart G Apr 2019 #12
No he didn't.. The car thing was bullshit. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18
Your statement is not true so everything you say after is not true. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #15
It is true... Greens started two wars, hurt the environment and caused an economic debacle. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21
Maybe study logic wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #38
Maybe study history. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #40
so called progressives that voted for Stein, Nader etc tend to like Donald Trump types JI7 Apr 2019 #24
Who here wont vote for the nominee ? CentralMass Apr 2019 #28
I don't believe you can "count" 3rd party votes for any side (dem or rep) bernie59 Apr 2019 #29
Please don't hold up someone else's body as part of your argument loyalsister Apr 2019 #30
Those who voted for Nader weren't on our side. Kaleva Apr 2019 #31
Are you fucking kidding me? Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #36
No one in Florida votes for Nader, those that were thinking that, vote for Gore...and.. Stuart G Apr 2019 #37
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