Liberals/progressives have to be honest with themselves

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46. It's true for anyone who doesn't fit neatly into one of the major popular narratives...

Doesn't really matter what sort of change it is or which party.

That's what a lot of people mean by the establishment, shit isn't gonna change.

Maybe a generation from now, when we're on the other side of a BOE and the boomers are fading away, we'll escape from the gravitational pull of the animosities of the 1960s.

None of the change movements have been very successful. The TP/Trump thing on the right is actually the result of a complete failure of Republicans to come up with anything better after Neoconservatism became a dirty word...and that was a vacuum begging to be filled. The narratives are sticky.

The Democratic party is still fairly happy with itself, it's still Obamas party, it doesn't want a revolution, it still believes Trump is an aberration.

The fringes are never particularly persuasive either, the sense that civilization is way off track isn't enough.

Trump locked down the nomination is SC too, by about the same margins. Of course, the south voted for him in the general.