Democratic Primaries

athena

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11. Take women for granted at your peril.

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:57 AM

Apr 2019

Women are not going to go out and campaign enthusiastically for yet another white male after the sexist attacks on Hillary gave us sexual-predator-in-chief Trump. We saw this in the midterms. Women are sick and tired of the patriarchy and its sexism. If Biden or any other white male is the nominee, Trump will win a second term.

And no, women are not going to be mollified by having a white male candidate pick a currently-powerful woman like Harris or Warren for the powerless and mostly irrelevant position of vice-president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Biden continues to hold solid lead in every poll, everywhere: post accusations [View all] louis c Apr 2019 OP

Biden will be the nominee BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #1

Biden-Harris: Dream Ticket louis c Apr 2019 #2

I'd support that DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #21

I'm on board with that! Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #80

YES!!!! Lisa0825 Apr 2019 #181

In your dreams all right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #153

Washington Post-'Electability' and 'Bernie' don't belong in the same sentence Gothmog Apr 2019 #189

You're now taking political advice from Jennifer Rubin?! Oh okay!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #191

Read the polling cited in that article Gothmog Apr 2019 #205

A significant portion of sanders support were really non-democrats who will not be back Gothmog Apr 2019 #222

I really like that ticket also Gothmog Apr 2019 #187

Biden polls numbers historically go down once he announces and starts campaigning, while... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #33

I assume this is why Biden hasn't declared yet. shanny Apr 2019 #49

Exactly right! Biden has to know he can't win, but I would never say he shouldn't run for a 3rd time InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #52

Not a good comparison. John Fante Apr 2019 #77

He is running as a VP really a Obama third term. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #108

He was VP for 8 years good luck with old shit. Not Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #83

lol shanny Apr 2019 #95

Haha, the old "old shit" defense...I'll remember that next time they bring up old shit about Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #101

+1 shanny Apr 2019 #103

What revolution? It doesn't exist. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #109

Do explain how what were "radical leftist" ideas a mere 2 years ago shanny Apr 2019 #139

That is a myth. Democrats have advocated those ideas for years. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #141

bwahahahahahahahahahaha shanny Apr 2019 #148

He who laughs last laughs best. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #154

Stone age ... and Biden's record on women is stellar ...Bye bye Bernie Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #107

I agree: Biden is Stone age shanny Apr 2019 #137

Bernie is older. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #142

WTF does Bernie have to do with this? shanny Apr 2019 #147

Just saying... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #156

just saying nothing shanny Apr 2019 #161

I have seen posts supporting Sanders Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #165

so what? shanny Apr 2019 #175

I was curious how since Sanders is older than Biden and Bidens age was the issue how Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #179

Show me where I ever said Biden's AGE was the issue. shanny Apr 2019 #185

... and wiser! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #162

No I don't tho think so. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #164

I agree. He always was. shanny Apr 2019 #177

How some peeps don't see this is beyond me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #178

Bernie running behind Biden in New Hampshire... louis c Apr 2019 #220

Wise but still older than Biden? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #180

Whatabout Bernie? Really? shanny Apr 2019 #199

After Trump True Blue American Apr 2019 #128

Obama's third term ...finally. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #143

aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #59

In your dreams. He is great on the campaign trail and he will be campaigning Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #82

Read up on your campaign history... not that it matters. Voters will decide... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #86

Running for the third Obama term as a FORMER VP. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #110

There are no bad feelings. Bernie brought in TONS of new, energized voters to the Democratic Party. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #113

Are you kidding? We lost and many including me don't think he helped enough Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #117

Bernie didn't help enough? Yeah riiiiigght... he campaigned for Hillary night and day... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #118

Do you really believe there are no hard feelings? We lost and he now has people who Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #121

No, I'm sayin there SHOULDN'T be hard feelins, just like there shouldn't have been any against Obama InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #125

Hillary worked her heart out for Obama, and Bill did also. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #149

No, I'm telling you how you SHOULDN'T feel... it only hurts your own self-interests. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #151

I don't consider supporting Sen Sanders to be in my best interest. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #157

You should-Joe was a great VP by adoptin Obama's agenda, which was more like Bernie's than Joe's own InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #160

Obama's agenda is nothing like Sen. Sanders. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #166

I don't agree with that. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #167

Of course not... it's Bernie we're talking about. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #168

People are allowed to feel differently than you about Sanders. This Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #170

Never said otherwise... you have every right to be wrong about Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #173

So do you. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #174

Bernie brought a TON of voters to Trump after losing the Dem primary as well. awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #146

Yes..true. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #150

I don't know why that is so easily dismissed... themaguffin Apr 2019 #120

I agree. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #123

Still amazing to me how much support Bernie has lost, everywhere. Gothmog Apr 2019 #208

And Sanders historically loses every Presidential Primary he enters. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #88

Polls show Bernie Sanders' popularity among all voters is plummeting Gothmog Apr 2019 #206

He's been bleeding support since Clinton cinched the nomination. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #214

I expect Pete Buttigieg to surpass Bernie. Blue_true Apr 2019 #91

You underestimate Bernie at your own peril. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #133

... BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #152

We're see. That is the great thing about primaries. Blue_true Apr 2019 #183

Damn! BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #131

No way in hell nini Apr 2019 #203

It's over already? Must have missed when the voting started. BlueStater Apr 2019 #201

Trump FEARS Biden because Biden can hit back with a smile..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #3

Biden should taunt him with the size of his huge hands... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #36

K&R EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #4

If it were a single encounter, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #5

Nobody is denying the pattern. What people are saying is that "being uncomfortable" doesn't LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #6

But what does that "being uncomfortable" mean? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #7

It means that they were uncomfortable; such things happen. And, don't lie; Biden acknowledges LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #9

People feel "uncomforable" about all kinds of things everyday... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #18

Just imagine SAYING you felt uncomfortable when someone Hortensis Apr 2019 #122

Especially if the hugger (or kisser, or thigh-toucher) is higher status than you. Demit Apr 2019 #194

We all do that last constantly, tho, Demet. Hortensis Apr 2019 #196

I'm confused. I thought I was agreeing with you. Demit Apr 2019 #200

I think we agree where we're talking about Hortensis Apr 2019 #204

The "brief" part of the hug or other kind of touch is an important distinction. Demit Apr 2019 #218

A big fat nothing, politically motivated attack. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #111

Ya, the pattern is for every 10,000 people Biden encounters in a single instance... louis c Apr 2019 #10

It's still too early in the game to make such pronouncements. athena Apr 2019 #13

That is a huge generalization on DU. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #19

The polling has been consistent thus far.. Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #23

DU also isn't very representative of the United States Democratic party bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #29

I'm a female Green Line Apr 2019 #58

Good for you. athena Apr 2019 #69

I hear ya! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #163

Sorry to break the news to you... louis c Apr 2019 #74

Polling is clear. The politically motivated accusations against Biden didn't Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #92

Were you here during the 2016 primaries? athena Apr 2019 #184

I can't follow your logic at all... louis c Apr 2019 #209

I am motivatedv by winning. I don't see a woman winning the presidency. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #210

Why would you make such an inane pronouncement? OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #87

In most cases, the gender is either stated or obvious. athena Apr 2019 #171

Huh? True Blue American Apr 2019 #130

Sure. Gender doesn't matter at all. athena Apr 2019 #136

Making gender True Blue American Apr 2019 #138

Who said it's all? athena Apr 2019 #145

I'm beginning to think you may be right, in which case I would happily reverse the order of InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #132

The voters are way too smart for that? He hasn't even declared yet, much less faced an election. Demit Apr 2019 #35

He was VP for eight years...running for a third Obama term. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #112

I look forward to how he campaigns. Demit Apr 2019 #119

It is diferent.He ran twice with Obama. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #124

As the sidekick. He's running for himself now. Demit Apr 2019 #127

Not true...Biden delivered in all ways for Obama. He was hands on in the campaign Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #159

I doubt people will vote for Biden because he was "hands on" in Obama's presidential campaign. Demit Apr 2019 #186

People care about winning. and all the old shit isn't going to matter...trying to pretend he wasn't Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #193

The "old shit" is still harming people. Families and students in debt... It's going to come up. Demit Apr 2019 #197

Joe has a history... people will see that when he jumps in the race and he's properly vetted. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #172

Bernie has a history also. We shall see. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #211

Sure could. But politically motivated attacks don't work clearly. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #144

lol BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #24

Abou what? Total bullshit. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #84

Biden is a very good man and he connects with people. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #8

Take women for granted at your peril. athena Apr 2019 #11

Just remember white women voted for Trump. Agschmid Apr 2019 #12

Yes. White Republican women. athena Apr 2019 #15

That's a pretty sad threat; women stand to lose far more as a group if Trump is reelected LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #20

Isn't that the truth? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #25

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2019 #46

"Since most men are Republican" TwilightZone Apr 2019 #39

I am a white woman Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #54

This is actually a really good point. A common argument I've seen on Facebook for why they did LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #16

More White Women went for Trump than Hillary.... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #40

I'd love to see them turn on him... Agschmid Apr 2019 #47

Polls show women continue to support Biden... louis c Apr 2019 #17

It's not enough to vote. The winner needs women to campaign enthusiastically. athena Apr 2019 #26

Thats my problem with focusing on these moderate... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #34

Exactly. athena Apr 2019 #38

Then again it's a no-lose situation... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #42

There is no way a perennial Democrat can lose BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #60

So the coveted "White Working Class Voters".... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #70

Translation BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #71

Are you referring to the White Working Class Voters? doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #72

There are moderate Democrats you know, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #114

Hey may very well be... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #135

Yes, the idea of getting rid of Trump will excite voters. And Biden can take the Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #140

You don't speak for all Democratic women. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #44

At least I am a woman. athena Apr 2019 #48

Thank you. shanny Apr 2019 #50

They didn't tell you to shut up, and that's a pretty big chip on your shoulder LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #53

No one told you to shut up. Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #55

I must have missed the part where any of that was said. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #56

If you look at what I've posted about Biden elsewhere on DU, athena Apr 2019 #63

I'll see if I can press on. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #64

The only one making "baseless attacks" is you. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #68

And Biden is not one of those men...political hit job. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #115

You may be a woman BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #61

I have a right to my opinion about how women will vote. athena Apr 2019 #65

So -- it is just a biased speculation on your part BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #66

You said it!! When is the man-splainin ever gonna stop?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #79

The partisans for one candidate still believe BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #28

But it backfired...saw a poll where Biden leads in New Hampshire. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #85

yep BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #89

You can only speak for yourself. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #27

Sorry but the polling says otherwise BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #43

What is disqualifying? athena Apr 2019 #45

Nobody is dismissing anyone's concerns. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #57

Please get over it BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #62

Thanks for this demonstration of civility! athena Apr 2019 #67

Also probably more enjoyable for those terrified of having their beliefs challenged. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #73

Oh snap! Tipperary Apr 2019 #106

+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #126

I am a woman and I will. I would hope that getting fascist Trump out of office Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #93

You're making a lot of sense... maybe should switch to Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #134

I am a woman and support Biden. I don't like politically motivated attacks. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #212

Nice touch here... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #14

Remember when Princess Di used to ... LakeArenal Apr 2019 #22

K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #30

These polls are just about name recognition at this point. Bleacher Creature Apr 2019 #31

I agree. Biden is doing as much of a slow roll of declaring his candidacy as Bernie is with Demit Apr 2019 #37

It looks fine to me. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #94

It's not the same.. Cha Apr 2019 #96

And I read that he won't declare until he has enough donor backing. Demit Apr 2019 #100

Biden- Beto awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #32

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #51

2020 roundup: Biden leads Harris in California Baclava Apr 2019 #75

Biden will be the nominee EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #76

Yes. Joe Biden will be. democratisphere Apr 2019 #78

I like your enthusiasm, Eve! Cha Apr 2019 #97

Not bad for someone who hasn't even declared, eh? MineralMan Apr 2019 #81

I guess the hit job did not work. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #90

I like Joe Biden a lot, but I won't support him in the primary Martin Eden Apr 2019 #98

1) Why the ageism? 2) Agree 100% that Joe's vote for the IWR is a disqualifier InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #105

Come on. That simply isn't true. Sanders is not up in New Hampshire. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #116

I don't think it's discriminatory "ageism" Martin Eden Apr 2019 #190

It should depend on the INDIVIDUAL... Joe appears to be in excellent shape & have quite the stamina InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #198

He's not 80. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #104

The fact is Joe would turn 80 about two thirds into his first term. Martin Eden Apr 2019 #192

He's not 80 now, though. That's the point. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #215

That's your point Martin Eden Apr 2019 #216

I'm not an ageist so you'd probably have to ask someone else what their cutoff is. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #217

I'll be happy to vote for Joe if he is the nominee for the party. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #99

No wonder some supporters of "other" campaigns don't want Joe in the race still_one Apr 2019 #129

They made that clear with the Flores attack. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #155

Biden promises a return to "normal" for the majority of American voters randr Apr 2019 #158

He is not a senator from Delaware anymore. His last job was VP. Also, one of the reasons Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #169

Joe Biden is no pushover. He has been around the block many times..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #176

So instead of allegations, why not call it greymattermom Apr 2019 #182

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Apr 2019 #188

k&r Skidmore Apr 2019 #195

Be prepared for a 3rd party candidate , that is all Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #202

Still amazing to me how much support Bernie has lost, everywhere. Gothmog Apr 2019 #207

I Agree. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #213

sanders will lose the #neverhillary types who were never democrats Gothmog Apr 2019 #221

The map makes me hopeful. The Sanders strategy is clear ...drive out those Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #223

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Apr 2019 #219