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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: I wonder if President Obama is changing his calculation. [View all]Celerity
(43,242 posts)15. TBH, I have zero clue how far Sanders will push things, and his 2020 voters are vastly more
radical, non Democrat Party-friendly (millions have never even been members), and far more burn it all down-types than his 2016 voters were.
They are far more likely to do crazy shit now than before. I can easily see them passing up the defection rate of Clinton's primary voters in 2008 (around 24 to 25% voted McCain, 5% did not vote.) I think if Bernie does things badly, and then Obama were to get prematurely involved, you could see a 35% or even 40% defection rate (although not so many straight to Trump, that will stay around the 10 to 12% range like in 2016, I think.) I think a shedload will either not vote or will go 3rd party if Bernie does really make a huge effort to prevent that.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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I don't see how he has any choice. This is his 8-year veep who supported him on everything,
Rainbow Droid
Mar 2020
#24
Oh.. I don't know about that. Obama jumping in now may only make the outcry of rigged
Thekaspervote
Mar 2020
#6
If Obama appears to be bigfooting the Bern, the defection rate from Sanders voters will instantly
Celerity
Mar 2020
#12
TBH, I have zero clue how far Sanders will push things, and his 2020 voters are vastly more
Celerity
Mar 2020
#15
he lost me when he wilfully and incorrectly self-labelled as a democratic socialist when he is
Celerity
Mar 2020
#19
Actually, we have an easy way to know EXACTLY how far bernie will push things
quakerboy
Mar 2020
#25
Of course it's up to Pres. Obama, but I think would cause untold damage. He's a brilliant man,
Tarheel_Dem
Mar 2020
#17
Did you not read the prefix to my statement that if Biden Wins Michigan and Washington?
GulfCoast66
Mar 2020
#23
Obama Won't Jump Into the Fray Nor Should He Until Biden Locks In The Nomination
Indykatie
Mar 2020
#28