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Monkie
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:54 AM Original message |
Clue on RAF crash missile (c130 crash now missile attack,blame iran?) |
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mhr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. I Have Wondered For A Long Time If The Resistance Movement |
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Supersedeas
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. or are they growing stronger? |
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anarchy1999
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. IMHO, "we've not seen anything yet"! |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. So what are you implying? |
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tkmorris
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Not exactly |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. They have been using missiles as well |
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Inte11ectual
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. nvm |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. They got lucky |
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Stella_Artois
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Tue Feb-08-05 03:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
92. Some groups have used them before |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Other incidents |
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ebayfool
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. "...how do we spin it? Blame Iran." I do think you've got it! |
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DoYouEverWonder
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. Too bad we didn't guard the ammo dumps |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Too bad the Iraqi Army didn't have... |
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SpiralHawk
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. "Mission Accomplished" !!!!! - George W. Bush* |
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frictionlessO
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. They fired 6 missles at it!!!??? That is very odd. |
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mhr
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Target Practice With A Live Target - What Better Way To Give Resistance |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. This is nothing new |
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frictionlessO
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. but whats up with the 6 at once thing?? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. It's not extremely common, but... |
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shadowknows69
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Tue Feb-08-05 01:09 AM Response to Reply #65 |
89. the sa-18 has a mounted variation doesn't it? |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. I'm not aware of a mounted version... |
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mod mom
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
58. How can you believe bu$h wacked news on what weapons were used when |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I don't get this stuff from the "news" |
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Earth_First
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
7. Connect the dots, la la la la... |
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wovenpaint
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. and weren't there quite a few Americans on that plane? |
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DistantWind88
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Not that we know of |
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Igel
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
11. Insurgency, Hanafi Sunni; Iran, Shi'a. |
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Kansas Wyatt
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. After the Super Bowl on Fox News, |
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reprobate
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I fear you are right, we are being prepared to attack Iran. |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I doubt we're gearing up to attack Iran |
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rustydad
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Escalation |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. About this Iran invasion |
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jayfish
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
63. Hello Herkdrvr... |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. In my opinion... |
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jayfish
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Some Do Want War... |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I'm not denying... |
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jayfish
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I'll Give You... |
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Rex
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Those that fail to learn from history |
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Inte11ectual
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. anyone read the New Yorker article |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I have... |
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Just Me
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. Now, whose psy-ops is this? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. What do ya mean? |
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coreystone
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Mon Feb-07-05 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. North Viet Nam didn't have the technology to produce the weaponry.. |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. This is a different situation... |
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Cocoa
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. no "story" is needed to sense an attack on Iran |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. No one was seriously talking about any "Iran invasion" until that story |
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henrik larssonisking
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. give me an S, give me a Y, give me a R |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. When I listed those countries... |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. FYI...Syria recently signed a deal with Russia to purchase... |
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henrik larssonisking
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. yup, thats why i think if it was an SA18 |
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mmonk
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. So the neocons |
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Don Claybrook
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Sy Hersch doesn't understand the "big picture"? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. No he does not. |
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Just Me
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Why should I believe you know more? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Why? |
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Just Me
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I could spend about 15 seconds on the net and have your expertise. |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I don't think you could spend 15 seconds and gain my expertise |
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Bhaisahab
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Tue Feb-08-05 04:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
93. with all due respect |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. I'm not an "expert" on that... |
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Don Claybrook
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Flying a C130 doesn't put you inside the head of the Bush Admin |
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Psephos
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. You're right, Hersh does have a track record |
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Don Claybrook
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. He's no Woodward, you're right |
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Psephos
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Tue Feb-08-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
84. I'm not persuaded |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Maybe... |
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Psephos
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. An interesting take...and I do feel Hersh got it mostly right this time |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Thanks, and in response |
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happyslug
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Tue Feb-08-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
107. I do not know if Hersh was wrong on those two occasions |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. You're right... |
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ewagner
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
101. Okay... |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Different C-130s |
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ewagner
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Tue Feb-08-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Thanks........ |
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Magleetis
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Just because you |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Navy C-130s |
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jayfish
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. Someone Better Explain The "Big... |
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makhno
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. At least six? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Tactics change |
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Just Me
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Mon Feb-07-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Why don't you educate yourself about PNAC. |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. My job isn't politics |
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makhno
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. War is an extension of politics ... |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. But would you want a military run by politically-motivated officers? |
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henrik larssonisking
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. interesting and informative answers mate. |
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Magleetis
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. If you |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Sometimes... |
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Rex
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. For the record? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. Credentials... |
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Rex
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Mon Feb-07-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. So the officers in the Pentagon are not politically motivated? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. They aren't supposed to be..and many aren't |
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Rex
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. You're Top Brass? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. What are you talking about? |
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Rex
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. You said the ones that run the military |
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Laurab
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. But isn't that exactly what we have? |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. If you want to talk about... |
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Laurab
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Yes, but at the end of the day |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
103. At the end of the day, every decision... |
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paineinthearse
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Mon Feb-07-05 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
66. Now probably in the archives.... |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. There is no SA-18 "launch vehicle" |
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DistantWind88
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Tue Feb-08-05 07:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
94. That was an SA-13 |
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ausiedownunderground
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
73. Likely 6 "Iglas" used to overwhelm countermeasures. |
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Herkdrvr
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Mon Feb-07-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. No, your a bit off |
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bvar22
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Tue Feb-08-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. There is one C-130... |
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Psephos
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Tue Feb-08-05 12:47 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. The C-130 in question was RAF, not USAF n/t |
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bvar22
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Tue Feb-08-05 12:53 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Are we keeping secrets from the British.... |
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Psephos
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Tue Feb-08-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. No, but each country uses its own avionics and countermeasures n/t |
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bvar22
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Tue Feb-08-05 01:13 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. What you say makes sense. |
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Herkdrvr
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Tue Feb-08-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. The Brits... |
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Gyre
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Tue Feb-08-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Well, HDvr I think you make sense. |
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Stockholm
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Tue Feb-08-05 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
95. "Military accident investigators believe" n/t |
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