(Georgia) Senate approves 'Choose Life' tags - - - WTF!

[jefferson_dem]

Senate approves 'Choose Life' tags

Sen. Jeff Mullis (R-Chickamauga) successfully urged his colleagues to pass a bill authorizing the state motor vehicles department to offer a license plate with the anti-abortion message.

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Mullis and other Republicans resisted an attempt by some Democrats to amend the bill by adding a "Pro Family, Pro-Choice," plate as an option for motorists.

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Sen. David Adelman (D-Atlanta) unsuccessfully argued that denying the abortion rights plate, while approving the anti-abortion plate, amounted to a violation of First Amendment rights to freedom of expression. "Let's stay out of the courts," said Sen. Gloria Butler (D-Stone Mountain). "Because if you pass one and don't pass the other, we're going to court. Let's let both sides have their say."

Sen. Ralph Hudgens (R-Comer), noting that the state has wildlife support license plates, asked Adelman if that means legislators would also have to provide plates reading "I support raping and pillaging the environment."

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http://www.ajc.com/hp/content/metro/legis05/0305/legside.html

[LiberalEsto]

1. Choose life - oppose the draft!

Can we have those license plates too? Please, please?

[readmoreoften]

2. Great! Because we've totally changed the meaning

of Choose Life!

Check out the thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3223169

[XanaDUer]

3. FL has had these pos plates for a while

I have written to Jebbie to ask why there is no counterpoint to them. No answer months later and counting...

[bluedog]

30. seen two last night

I told my daughter about it..driving big SUV's......both had older 60+ women driving...

Six States "Choose Life" over the Constitution
Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi and South Carolina have passed laws that sanction the sale of "Choose Life" license plates. The Center for Reproductive Rights has pursued federal litigation in Florida and Louisiana.


here it is

[youngdem]

31. They are everywhere in Mississippi.

[bleedingheart]

4. Only in America, "Choose Life" and "I support the WAR" on the same car

hahahahahahahahahah

[flaminbats]

35. "More War" and "Less taxes"

or "vote Republican" and "the south will rise agin" :puke:

[athenap]

5. Pro-life and Pro-choice are political stances.

If enough people want to drive around with a plate that says "I rape and pillage the environment" then yeah...although it'd be a little redundant, as all the evidence is there with the giant rolling living room SUVs that are out there guzzling gas and all that.

[July]

6. When will someone ask for a "Choose Choice" tag?

Good for the goose . . .

And abortion is still legal.

[Mallifica]

32. The ammendment proposed

would have also, silmultaneously, created a "Georgians for Choice" plate . . .

There are currently law suits in five states about this issue - only allowing one side of a political "issue" to voice an opinion on a license plate. Georgia will be the sixth.

It really should have been an argument about first ammendment rights, but it turned into a debate about abortion - which doesn't go anywhere.

[alcuno]

7. License plates used to be a way of uniting the people of a state.

Now it's just one more way for people to divide themselves.

[eShirl]

8. "Choose life" as a slogan is implicity pro-choice

it implies the right to choose

[pintobean]

19. That's the way I see it too.

[Crazy8s]

46. Perhaps These Tags Appear To Consider Choice, But

the moneys from them go in part to 'pro-adoption' groups with a decidenly anti-choice agenda. Just look up the FL Choose Life tag site (yep, they have a site) and you'll see all these testimonies from tag owners on how they are assuring that Christian babies are being saved from abortion by the viewing of these plates. Blarf! They also sell all sorts of 'pro-life' products so that the agenda can be pushed further.

I'm currently making up a 'vanity plate' that resembles the Lifer tag, except that the two faces are those of smiling women, the red letters read 'CHOICE' and the black ones read 'IM4IT'. Not sure if I want 'FLORIDA' or 'For Every Woman' underneath.

[pintobean]

47. I don't have a problem with

the concept of adoption as a choice.

[warrior1]

9. Choice Life

ban capital punishment and senseless wars, feed the weak and house the poor and the little babies.

[CottonBear]

10. I am so embarrassed to be a Georgian

First the 24 hour abortion waiting period and now this. This is proof that our stat government has been completely taken over by the Republicaban.

It was just a few years ago that we had Roy Barnes as governor and Tom Murphy as house speaker and we were one of the most progressive southern states.

Ralph Hudgens is a total ass. His district is right next to the district where I live.
And yes, the republicans do support "raping and pillaging the environment."
I hope someone takes them to court on this issue.

[murray hill farm]

22. Georgia does have.

Cynthia Mckinney!

[Southern Dem 2005]

44. Who is an embarrassment to most Georgians

[CottonBear]

48. Not True- Cynthia is a patriot. And, John Lewis is a civil rights hero!

Cyntia is a brave and noble public servant. True Dems respect her positions.
Unfortunately, neither, John nor Cynthia are in my district. I do have the wonderful John Barrow, who is from Athens, who defeatd Max Burns, However, the Repubs have re-districted, so he's gonna have rough time during the next elction. They've split Athens off form our district and put all of us liberlas, blacks, hispanics and other poor folks in w/ RW rural counties. :cry:

Hi there mexicopat. I see that you live on Isla Mujeres! I've been there. How wonderful it must be to live there. Adios mi amigo!

[DeaconBlues]

11. so much for separation of church and state

another wonderful example of taxpayers money being used to bolster a political, religious agenda

[Enraged_Ape]

12. What's the big deal? Isn't that what George Michael wore on his T-shirt

back in the Wham! days?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/07/07/200_wham,0.jpg

JITTERBUG!

[soup]

13. OOH, Shame on you.

I now have 'wake me up before you go-go' rolling over and over in my head...

Wake me up before you go-go
Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo
Wake me up before you go-go
I don't want to miss it when you hit that high
Wake me up before you go-go
'Cause I'm not plannin' on going solo
Wake me up before you go-go
Take me dancing tonight
I wanna hit that high

:crazy: ugh

[Enraged_Ape]

33. HA HA HA HA HA HA

That is the worst ear worm in the history of music.

I once read a news article about a guy that was pinned, helpless, underneath his wrecked car for something like two days before someone found him. In the meantime, his in-dash stereo played a Wham! tape over and over and over again until the battery ran out.

I can't think of a way to spend a more horrible 48 hours.

[Toucano]

15. I could be wrong,

but I think the slogan "Choose Life" was the UK's "Just Say No", and wasn't an statement about reproductive freedom, but rather it was an anti-drugs statement.

I seem to recall that for some reason, but I could be mistaken.

Hangin' on like a yo-yo,

T

[Toucano]

14. When did the state get in the bumpersticker business?

I don't understand the rationale for this at all.

Special plates started as a means of raising revenue for state sponsored programs: wildlife, literacy, veterans, universities, etc.

It was an easy, optional tax or sorts.

Somehow it's morphed into a venue for political expression and it's absurd. It totally exceeds the purpose of a license plate.

[Flammable Materials]

16. Here's the plate the pro-choicers in Georgia should submit:

[DS1]

17. Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a starter home. Choose dental insurance,

leisure wear and matching luggage.

I think Danny Boyle is going to come looking for royalties.

[Zynx]

18. Maybe that would carry more water if they opposed the death penalty.

Just saying.

[hlthe2b]

20. Dems: pair it with anti-war, pro-peace & anti-death penalty stickers.....

Let the RWers display their own hypocrisy.

[HockeyMom]

21. Choose Life

Bring Our Soldiers Home

[dddem]

23. how about

Choose life...since, thankfully, you HAVE a choice.

[amazona]

24. wasn't that the motto from Trainspotting?

How...odd!

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[TheDonkey]

25. true shame, and another reason for me never to go visit Georgia

[QC]

27. I'm sure the people of Georgia will be devastated. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

43. Oh come on, friend. We're not all that bad down in in JO-JA.

At least, it's not that bad inside the 285 perimeter highway that circles Atlanta. Outside 285, travel at your own risk. :shrug:

Just remember that yours is the state that's proudly represented by the walking freak show - Sen. Sanitarium... :puke:

[Rex]

26. Do they have one that says 'Choose death'?

I'm jus askin.

[napi21]

28. Oh Hell, I live in Ga., and I say let 'em have their damn plate!

They already mess up the paint job on their cars with those little fish symbols, ribbon decals of all kinds, and WWJD stickers. If it makes 'em feel better, fine. I don't know who they think they're going to convert to their thinking...sure nobody I know!

It's a lost cause, and not only in Ga, but Ala, Miss, and SC too.

The best bet the Dems have in any of those states is to convince people that they can be against gay rights, abortion, and stem cell research, but the Pubs are going to do them much more harm by destroying SS, instigating constant wars, and destroying the economy for them and their children with insainly high debt!

Trying to change their minds on the other issues is like trying to convince Bin Laden that Alah was an evil man...it's just not going to happen!

[Solly Mack]

29. Scratch off the "F" and the truth will emerge "Choose Lie"

[BornLeft]

34. This is ok but

i wonder if they will issue "Pro Choice" ones also? Might be one heck of a legal case. I mean we are for free speach right?

[DoNotRefill]

36. I'd pay money....

for a "choose death" license plate...

:evilgrin:

[eek MD]

37. Question....

Is there a law against putting stickers over your license plate?.....Why not just have everyone put a sticker on the bottom of their plate (making sure to take care to obscure some of the numbers) with a big "Pro-Choice" sticker?...
Then again, you'd probably be made a target, if you're driving through "good 'ole boy" country...=\

[manly]

38. Pro-choice license plates

'Mullis and other Republicans resisted an attempt by some Democrats to amend the bill by adding a "Pro Family, Pro-Choice," plate as an option for motorists.'

This is from Georgia, where some folks have passed a law allowing motorists to choose an anti-abortion slogan for their license plates.The Dems, well-meaning, I'm sure,suggested the above amendment.
Sure. I can just see people in Georgia flocking to get their pro-choice license plates.And the following morning the phone lines to all the insurance companies would be jammed. " Yeah, all the windows smashed." "Every tire slashed, while it was sitting in my driveway overnight." "It was such a pretty car, and they spray-painted it all over. It's a real mess." "Looks like someone took a sledge hammer to it. And I just simply can't imagine why."
Guess.

[rabid_nerd]

39. Choose Life is a "reasonable" statement

and the statement could only opposed by those who would want people to not choose life. It implies there IS a choice, and you are lobbying people to make a specific one.

It is no different from save the wildlife plates, in theory.

There is no implicit anti-choice statment, even though I agree it is Pro-Life people who advocate and claim "membership" from these plates. They would claim that all people with these plates are teetotallers, just as all the Pro-Choice fundies here would. This simply cannot be the case.

Their claim to membership from all the plates would be false, however, as there may very well be dozens or hundreds of well meaning, very Pro-Choice women with "Choose Life" plates on their cars, and just aren't savvy to the political ramifications of the debate behind the plate.

Just as hundreds if not thousands or tens of thousands of ardent Pro-Life women use Planned Parenthood services without realizing the political polarization of the situation.

We are too polarized here.

THAT SAID, I do agree with the statement that it could be crossing the line to use license plates for political, issue or fundraising purposes. Of course that would mean no VFW plates, no Zoo plates, no historical or land preservation plates, no college plates, etc.

Perhaps a comparatively subtle reply would be a plate for women's rights, not specifically for Pro-Choice?

I am personally Pro-Life.

[bullimiami]

42. choose life could be a reasonable statement in another context

but it is in fact and practice a theocratic argument and should have no place on auto tags.

dont play naive its unbecoming.

[enki23]

40. don't tell me that actually surprises you

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[bullimiami]

41. people should seek a "support womens rights" plate.

i think its a good counter balance.

[orleans]

45. choose another president!

or choose democrats!