Bush orders policy to ‘contain’ Chávez

[cal04]

Senior US administration officials are working on a policy to “contain” Hugo Chávez, the Venezuelan president, and what they allege is his drive to “subvert” Latin America's least stable states. A strategy aimed at fencing in the government of the world's fifth-largest oil exporter is being prepared at the request of President George W. Bush and Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state, senior US officials say. The move signals a renewed interest by the administration in a region that has been relatively neglected in recent years.

Roger Pardo-Maurer, deputy assistant secretary for western hemisphere affairs at the US Department of Defense, said the Venezuela policy was being developed because Mr Chávez was employing a “hyena strategy” in the region. “Chávez is a problem because he is clearly using his oil money and influence to introduce his conflictive style into the politics of other countries,” Mr Pardo-Maurer said in an interview with the Financial Times. “He's picking on the countries whose social fabric is the weakest,” he added. “In some cases it's downright subversion.”

Mr Chávez, whose government has enjoyed bumper export revenues during his six years in office thanks to high oil prices, has denied that he is aiding insurgent groups in countries such as Bolivia, Colombia and Peru. But a tougher stance from the US appears to be in the offing, a move that is likely to worsen strained bilateral relations. The policy shift in Washington, which a US military officer said is at an early stage but is centred on the goal of “containment”, could also have implications for the world oil market.


http://news.ft.com/cms/s/77d0a418-93ff-11d9-9d6e-00000e2511c8.html

[Blue to the bone]

1. Bush & his criminal cabal are out of their minds! n/t

[DBoon]

15. Latin American needs to contain Bush

President Bush is clearly out of control and is attempting to subvert governments around the world.

Only a concerted effort of responsible world leaders can contain this threat.

[Boo Boo]

75. I think that in actuality

the government being subverted is our own.

[AuntiBush]

62. He's not crazy! He's too STUPID to be crazy!

Criminal, yes! It's his follower's & Senators/Rep's that vote for anything he puts on the table that are out of their minds!

You'd think they'd worry about not getting voted back in, but when you have the votes pre-determined, it's a free for all. When they strip us of everything, which isn't far away :scared: then what?

[pokercat999]

69. two words

second amendment

[Redstone]

80. Yeah, right.

All the Gun Nuts are going to rise up and free us of the bush Administration?

Most of them, last I heard, are bush supporters.

Redstone

(Assuming that I interpreted the meaning of your post correclty. If not, never mind.)

[NNN0LHI]

2. Just like Iraq. First contain and then invade n/t

[Brooklyn Michael]

50. Yeah!

“Chávez is a problem because he is clearly using his oil money and influence to introduce his conflictive style into the politics of other countries,”

Yeah, man, only the U.S. can do that! How DARE he?

:freak:

[w4rma]

3. They *refuse* to *buy* oil. (nt)

[saigon68]

33. The CIA and its Toadies will KILL CHAVEZ

Remember Salvadore Allende.

[daleo]

4. Talk about projection.

Everything they accuse him of, they are actually doing themselves. Sometimes you think Bush and company are setting up an insanity defense.

Hyena strategy is a new dehumanizing phrase, so I expect we will hear it done to death over the next while by the corporate media, who will be stifling a chortle every time they use the expression. What about the chimp strategy?

[madrchsod]

5. i don`t think china and india are going to be very happy

both have large investments in oil production....they are out of their minds.

[kaitykaity]

9. Yeah, I can't wait for that *itch-slap.

China and India threaten to flood the foreign exhange
markets with dollars and our currency is gone. Done.
Put a fork in it.

Out of their minds.

[Say_What]

12. add Russia, Iran, and other LatAm countries who just signed agreements n/t

[autorank]

6. "Contain" as in kill? Good thing Bush runs the "gang that couldn't shoot

straight."

[Blue to the bone]

7. Imagine. The chimp calling the hyena, black. n/t

[dArKeR]

8. Urge to drop democracy grows in Latin America

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2004/06/28/2003176910

[Gloria]

10. "Democracy is broad but it is not deep"-- true for Latin America...&

true for America itself.....

[0007]

37. Good to hear from you again & thanks for the great article on

South American.

"In the north, Venezuela remains deeply polarized, as foes of President Hugo Chavez plot to oust him while he continues with what he has called a "peaceful revolution" that includes a radical redistribution of the nation's oil wealth. Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia, meanwhile, are all buffeted by nearly continuous protests from indigenous groups and other once-forgotten classes that are demanding to be heard."

[CoffeeCat]

11. I knew Chavez was due for a lashing...

...from BushCo.

Chavez has been standing up to the * thugs for a while now and he's been brutally honest--without apology.

Of course, * will now begin the propaganda campaign to demonize Chavez and to position him as a terrorist.

The * administration has become like the Alpha Betas--those elitist, self-absorbed, infantile frat boys in "Revenge of the Nerds" who used moronic bullying tactics to beat everyone down.

Watch out Condi, *, Rummy and Cheney! You may find yourself up against the Gilberts, Wormsers and Poindexters of the world. Never underestimate the little guy (or the Tri Lambdas!).

(I know this is a strange analogy, but somehow it fits the goons in the WH).

[Say_What]

13. Whaddya mean *begin*? That demonization campaign started long ago n/t

[CoffeeCat]

18. True...

...BushCo has grumbled a great deal about Chavez. The propaganda has definitely stepped up in the past weeks--as Chavez has fought back against *'s rhetoric.

However, it sounds like the administration is making Chavez a priority.

It's possible that we could see this anti-Chavez campaign moved from the back burner to the front-and-center burner.

[kaitykaity]

14. The little guy with those really big friends at the end.

Good analogy.

lol.

[phrenzy]

26. del

[phrenzy]

27. Tri Lams - They're So Incredible! (nt)

[Erika]

16. Bush will protect his oil buddies revenues at all costs

But we are running out of troops. Bush isn't trying to use a conflictive style? Barf.

[countmyvote4real]

17. It takes one to know one.

“Chávez is a problem because he is clearly using his oil money and influence to introduce his conflictive style into the politics of other countries,” Mr Pardo-Maurer said in an interview with the Financial Times. “He's picking on the countries whose social fabric is the weakest,” he added. “In some cases it's downright subversion.”

[magellan]

21. You beat me to it

Of course, pointing out the hypocrisy of BushCo is a full-time job. Perhaps we should take shifts. :)

[mike_c]

19. ahh yes, where better to train Negroponte's successor...

...than in the Latin American branch of the Ministry of Banana Republicanism. And what fun it will be to reactivate all those old networks down there. Hell, maybe we can even rehabilitate Manuel Noriega.

[IndianaGreen]

20. The natives are getting restless in Latin America

and Bush is going after the new Che Guevara, except that Chavez is not Che, he is more like Salvador Allende and Jacobo Arbenz.

An American invasion of Venezuela will make those "Support the Troops" magnetic ribbons seem more like the old Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer."

[nolabels]

25. I bet Chavez was probably thinking what is taking * so long.............

To react to all them provocations. Bushco will have a hard time convincing the people south of the Rio Grande of his good intentions.

In any case it should be interesting watching chimpy trying to assemble a ten million man invasion force for South America's liberation :crazy:

[aneerkoinos]

30. What will they do

If and when Mexico starts talking socialism? Invade? War against people of Mexico would mean civil war in USA ... who would DUers stand with?

[reprobate]

66. "who would DUers stand with?" Anyone But Bush!

[IndianaGreen]

71. To stand with Chavez is to stand against US troops

I just want to make it clear that those of us that won't play the good German, will have no trouble supporting Chavez if Venezuela is attacked by US troops.

Like the Cubans say, "Patria o muerte! Venceremos!"

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. bush*s deffinition of contain - send in the jackels

bush is INSANE

[AP]

23. This is pretty rich. Considering the way the US destabilized Chile...

...by toppling a democratically elected non-fascist government and introduced years of economic depression, death and misery, I'm not sure we're in any position to criticize the way Venezuela is using oil money, especially since democracy seems to be working and people aren't suffering.

[mike_c]

24. the captains of industry aren't entirely happy with that bit....

...especially since democracy seems to be working and people aren't suffering

[Judi Lynn]

28. The man they chose to give the "hyena strategy" phrase a trial run,

Roger (Rogelio) Pardo-Maurer, was himself deeply involved in Iran-Contra. He's been mucking around in _Bush's agression toward Hugo Chavez since December, 2001:

Wayne Madsen, a former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, told the British Guardian that U.S. military attachés had been in touch with Venezuelan military officers last year to examine the possibility of a coup. “I first heard of Lt. Col. James Rogers going down there last June to set the ground,” Madsen said, referring to the assistant military attaché now based at the U.S. Embassy in Caracas. “Some of our counternarcotics agents were also involved.”

In November, an eight-member delegation of Venezuelan business leaders traveled to Washington and met with John Maisto, U.S. national security adviser for Latin America, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham and Otto J. Reich, assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs. The delegation was led by Pedro Carmona Estanga, head of Venezuela’s main business federation, who was installed as Chávez’s replacement.

The Pentagon has confirmed that Gen. Lucas Rincón Romero, chief of the Venezuelan armed forces, met December 18 with Rogelio Pardo-Maurer, U.S. deputy defense secretary for Western Hemisphere affairs, who served during the 1980s as chief of staff to the U.S. representative of rightwing Nicaraguan rebels known as contras. On April 11, before Chávez was removed, Rincón refused an order to send tanks to protect the presidential palace. A few hours later, he announced Chávez’s “resignation.”
(snip/...)

http://www.americas.org/item_227



Pardo-Maurer

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Isn't this truly pathetic?

[0007]

40. Now we know why junior wants Negroponte as the new Intelligent

Chief. I wonder where and when they'll appoint Orlando Bosch?


Orlando Bosch: The Bush Family's Favorite Terrorist
Twenty-five years ago, on October 6, 1976, Cuba was victim to a premeditated and heinous crime. A Cubana Airline aircraft was the target of a cowardly act of sabotage that blew it up in mid flight offshore Barbados. All the passengers and crewmembers on board were killed, including the young winners of the Central American and Caribbean Fencing Championship and a group of Guyanese students. The 73 victims are still awaiting justice.

The main culprits have never been brought to trial or sanctioned. Those who conceived, planned and directed this act of genocide have a long history of terrorism that began in the 1960's under the auspices of the CIA. The role they played in the blowing-up of the Cubana aircraft and the cold-blooded murder of all those on board are well known by the U.S. government. On June 23, 1989, the Department of Justice of that country admitted that it possessed information on the case, which it had kept a secret.

Despite his infamous history, including serious crimes committed on American soil, contrary to the ruling of the Attorney General's Office and in spite of the opposition of major U.S. media, one of these terrorists, Orlando Bosch, has lived in the United States for more than ten years, thanks to a decision by the then-President George Bush, and there he has continued to carry out his monstrous trade undisturbed. This man and his cronies, confident of the complete impunity they enjoy and backed up by the so-called Cuban-American National Foundation announced, in a Miami daily paper full page last August 22, that they would continue to use all means and methods available against Cuba without ruling out either terrorism or violence.

In light of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., the U.N. Security Council unanimously adopted a U.S.-sponsored resolution demanding that all nations freeze finances of terrorism suspects and crack down on groups who help them.

The measure dramatically expands the U.N. role in the global war on terrorism. It also requires countries to deny ``safe haven'' to anyone responsible for, or supporting a terror attack and criminalizes the financing of such attacks.

Isn’t it time the United States stops providing a “safe haven” for Orlando Bosch?

[Judi Lynn]

88. Also, the Miami City Commissioners named a day for him: a terrorist.

Isn't that almost unbearable? Someone has said that there is a street in Maimi named for him, as well.

In an interview with the Miami New Times, when asked what his feelings are now, about that plane he blew up, he said: "There were no innocents aboard that plane."

Yeah, sure! The entire Cuban fencing team, and a group of students from Guyana. How professional for a pediatrian to bomb these kids.



Young Bosch, and much later, deranged, nasty murderer, Miami celebrity Bosch.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

29. Venezuela's Democratic Socialism is considered a huge threat to the U.S.

Chávez is using oil revenue to improve the conditions and standards of living of all Venezuelans. The U.S. is frightened of the prospect of seeing a successful socialist system - what if Americans see what's happening and demand the same here?

[aneerkoinos]

32. Exactly

The oligarchies will never voluntarily allow authentic social democracy, and if they can't outright subvert it they will attempt to put such pressure ("containment") that the result is self-protective authoritarianism.

In case of Venezueala it is quite clear that confrontationalism of Washington will lead to radicalization of Venezuelan (and other) social revolutions, real fight between increasinly socialist people and global corporate fascism (aka "International Community").

With looming Peak Oil and economic collapse open fascism and social movements resisting it are unavoidable also in US.

Historical dialectics anyone? ;)

"Tää on viimeinen taisto,
rintamaamme yhtykää,
viel huomispäivän kansat
on veljet keskenään!"

http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~makarov/temporary_url_20050226uwmdi/internationale-fi-kom-teatteri_1972.mp3
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~makarov/temporary_url_20050226uwmdi/internationale-sp.mp3

[lostnfound]

42. And the most dangerous idea is that governments can work for the people

as a whole instead of for only wealthy campaign contributors.

[Zorra]

47. I agree.

The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. The great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dictates of the financial centers. It will be this way until the dwarfs rebel . .

http://www.cambridgeaction.net/node/view/17

[aneerkoinos]

52. What is really happening

In South- and Central-America, it's not just one country, it's the whole continent. The masses are mobilized, they are giving representative democracy and "third way" policies one last chance, TPTB are plenty scared. The left has the initiative, Venezuela and Uruguay are getting radical and Lula is getting challenged from the left. Things may get violent, but not necessarily, it will be the oligarchy that will open the fire, but at their own peril - their base of power (US) is weaker than ever, and they know it - the oligarchy has no legitimacy. Things are very much like 1989 in the Soviet Empire, biggest difference is that their propaganda machine (corporate media) is still strong and influential, but Interenet, bloggers etc. are eroding it's credibility.

Here in the North there's a lull, anti-capitalist mass demonstrations are pretty much dead, but is this silence before the storm or last gasp, remains to be seen. Comrades, the battle front is in Latin America, for all of us.

[mutus_frutex]

55. Why do you say that Uruguay is getting radical? nt

[aneerkoinos]

58. Just a hunch

Tupamaro guerilla leader as new president might turn out to be a bit less third wayish than Lula, but time will show, people will lead, leaders shall follow, I may be fooling myself with wishfull thinking or not ...

[mutus_frutex]

60. The new president is NOT a former Tupa.

He is a socialist. The president of the assembly is a tupamaro and the majority of the senate are from a faction that was originally tupa.

Moreover, the tupamaros were/are the least violent guerrilla you can probably find.

I think the new gvmnt will be socialist first and populist second. And I also think that a populism of the Chavez style will be quite repugnant to most uruguayans.

Cheers..

[aneerkoinos]

64. All the more power ...

I agree, if they are socialist (really meaning that) first and populist second, they are even more radical than Chavez. And Chavez seems to be transforming from a populist into populist socialist ...

I probably should do some reading on tupamaros and history of Uruguay ...

[mutus_frutex]

72. I think the gvmnt in Uruguay is going to go for a European style socialism

I understand what you mean when you say that well applied socialism is more powerful and therefore scarier to the US, then simple populism. Populism is easily dismissed, true socialism isn't.

The history of the Tupamaros is worth reading. You would probably like a lot of them. The only way I find to describe these guys is as 20th century of your founding fathers: intellectuals, but in contact with the people, not afraid to take a stand, etc, etc.

Cheers.

[aneerkoinos]

73. European style socialism

Is today economical neoliberalism with some social rhetorics on top, nothing to do with socialism, on the contrary, European style social democratic parties are wrecking havoc with privatizations and pro-corporate policies, sometimes more eagerly than right wing parties. I hope and believe Uruguay will do better.

Only authentic socialist forces in Europe have been the young people who demonstrated (and got beaten and shot by police) in Gothenburg, Prague, Genova etc.

Wikipedia does not have much on Tupamaros.

[mutus_frutex]

77. You sound like a european! :-)

And yeah, I know what you mean. But considering the Chicago-inspired neoliberalism that most of S. America has been through, even euro-socialism is a step in the right direction. What most people would like is a return to the social prosperity of the first half of the 20th century, but that is impossible. Neoliberalism has been a disaster, maybe socialism-light will do better. We'll see.

If you can read spanish, here is the Tupamaros webpage:
http://fp.chasque.net:8081/mln/

Here is a bibliography about the group, most in spanish, but with several sources in english:
http://users.skynet.be/terrorism/html/uruguay_mln.htm

Cheers.

[aneerkoinos]

86. Yeah

I sound like one because I'm one. :)

But here's the situation and the analyzis why I became socialist (only quite recently):

Were cruising on the Titanic and Ice-Berg of Peak Oil and consequent economic collapse of growth dependent economic system of capitalism is getting awfully near. The time for building enough life-boats was passed many many years ago, but we should start anyway. Example of Cuban energy crisis and how its socialist system survived it and didn't collapse by people pulling together and changing their way of life is a hopefull example of a lifeboat for all of us, that there is way to survive respecting human dignity and equality.

But I don't see how socialism-light would cut it, basic means of production to guarantee satisfaction of basic needs need to become under political democratic (human) control instead of (inhuman) corporate power.

[mutus_frutex]

90. I guessed that much.

From both the tone of your messages and your handle, that sound greek to me. :-)

I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I probably came to the same conclusion as you longer ago, but I got my position reframed lately, especially after I started reading a bit more about sustainable development.

Have you read the works of Kim Stanley Robinson? He writes science fiction, but a lot of his stuff is well documented and has quite good ideas. Very much in line with what you say.

Cheers.

[MADem]

31. If that country didn't have any oil, he would not give a crap

It's all about the oil with that guy.

[GoBlue]

34. Correction

“Chávez Bush is a problem because he is clearly using his oil money and influence to introduce his conflictive style into the politics of other countries,” Mr Pardo-Maurer said in an interview with the Financial Times. “He's picking on the countries whose social fabric is the weakest,” he added. “In some cases it's downright subversion.”

[ixion]

35. isn't it ironic that all the countries that need 'containment' are oil

producing countries?

Sure they can be committing genocide over in Sudan, but it's Venezuala that needs to be contained. Sure, that makes sense. NOT! :grr: :eyes:

[LynnTheDem]

36. Wish to hell the world would issue a policy to contain bush

Before America really becomes the 4th Reich.

[0007]

43. The people will take only so much

[jmcgowanjm]

48. They have: Google BRIC

Spanish authorities said they suspected some of the cash
was illegally siphoned from Russian oil company
Yukos.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4344447.stm

Leaders of Iran, Venezuela blast US again

AFP
VHeadline.com

President Hugo Chavez waiting for USA to announce that Venezuela has WMD

India, Venezuela sign 'historic' deal on oil exploration
by reposts Saturday, Mar. 05, 2005 at 8:40 AM

In January, China signed energy accords with Venezuela
that aimed to make the largest oil consumer in Asia a
major player in the Venezuelan oil and gas
industry.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/03/1725065.php

[dameocrat]

38. Well you know Bush! He just loves Democracy!

.

[colonel odis]

39. isn't citgo gasoline owned by the venezuelan govt?

i believe i read that. which is why i always buy citgo. $25 that doesn't go to exxon/bp/whatever and $25 to someone who gives bush the middle finger.

[Clark2008]

41. Quake in fear, all you countries with oil

:scared:

I guess parts of the former Soviet Union are also on Bush's short list for "regime-change" considering they have oil, too.

This administration is nothing more than oil-field bullies, as opposed to the regular school-yard variety. And, I rather suspect, just like your parents taught you, that if one country stands up to Bush, he'll run whimpering to his parents (the UN) like the spoiled brat he is.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

46. Take a look at where all of the members of OPEC are located, and.....

...you will find an area of the world that we are threatening in one way or another.

[aneerkoinos]

53. Quake in fear, dirty capitalists!

Soon All Your Base Are Belong To We The People!!!

Clark2008, we are not afraid, US and the corporate oligarcy is the loser, I'm on the winning side, on the side of spiritual socialist (holistic) democracy. No matter how long it takes. I've freed my mind, I've won allready, Bush and the powers he serves have no power over me.

[DoYouEverWonder]

44. We need a policy

to contain Bush. He is the biggest threat to democracy on the planet.

[aneerkoinos]

54. I got one

Stop fearing him. Stop hating him. Stop thinking about him. Bush is nothing, US is nothing, just live your lives justly, without fear, free from selfish greed.

Nobody can steel democracy. I and I rule!!!

[Mika]

45. BushCrimaNazis will have to kill 80% of Venezuelans to overtake Ven.

Scary thing about that.. Bushco will have little problem with that prospect.

Send in US troops tanks and bombers - our heroes.

[bunny planet]

49. Can anybody spell assassination. Chavez just told the blivet a couple of

weeks ago that if they tried to take him out of power or messed with him in anyway he would cut off all sales of oil to USA. They will use propaganda to set him up as a dictator who deals with insurgents and then try to take him out. They have no problems being obvious at this point (did they ever).

[RedCloud]

51. Bumper export revenues???

whose government has enjoyed bumper export revenues during his six years in office thanks to high oil prices...

Uh, we are not exactly morans over here. please research. You may find that there was a strike by the oil workers and moguls that lasted for years...

[jpak]

56. Chavez is trying to communicate with Osama Bin Laden!!!!

He has weapons of mass deeeestruction!!!

He is the new Castro!!!!

The Sky is Falling!!!

Wolf!!! Wolf!!!!

[Stop_the_War]

57. Viva Hugo Chávez!

[stepnw1f]

59. Bush is Giving Democracy a Very Bad Name

Everytime he pulls this shit with another country he becomes his own worst enemy. Yes WORDS do resonate, just not the way you expect them to you dumb @!()#&!

[aneerkoinos]

65. I love Bush n/t

[stepnw1f]

68. Ignored...(nt)

[Imperialism Inc.]

61. “We have reached the end of the road of the current approach.”

Gee, you don't think this has anything to do with all the recent oil agreements between Venezuela and the rest of the world?
This was entirely predictable and indeed has been predicted here on Du many times. The threat of a good example is alive and well and must be "contained".

[arewenotdemo]

63. Fucking Nazis

[NickB79]

67. For those of you who don't speak Neocon fluently

"he is clearly using his oil money and influence to introduce his conflictive style into the politics of other countries"

translates into:

"he is helping to empower the poor of his country instead of serving the richest 1%, and we don't want poor people in other Latin countries to wise up and kick our stooges out of power."

[Dave Reynolds]

70. I may be imagining a trend,

but every country Boosh wants "contained" seems to be described as "oil producing".

Where's my damn tin foil.

[Boo Boo]

74. Rogelio Pardo-Maurer

Former political officer for the Contras. Both US and Costa Rican citizenship. Wrote a book about the Contras.

As if we needed any more proof of the Bush/Contra connection, there's no hiding it now. Bush II has loaded his admin with Contra conspirators. Jeb is one, of course. The woman who designed the infamous Butterfly Ballot down in Florida is one too, IMO.

They're everywhere!

[chopper]

76. what??

“He's picking on the countries whose social fabric is the weakest,” he added. “In some cases it's downright subversion.”

how dare he! that's our job, dammit!

[emma_jane]

78. Has anyone seen the amazing docco...

called:

"The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"

More info here:
http://www.chavezthefilm.com/index_ex.htm

Regarding the coup etc. a couple of years ago. Possibly the best documentary I have ever seen, and all filmed basically by accident.

[Judi Lynn]

81. It's fantastic that the Irish film crew was there around the same time,

doing its own documentary, when this thing started. Geez.

I'm so desperate to get a copy of that film. Do you, or does anyone else know if _Bush will be able to prevent the C.D. from being sold publically here? I've GOT to see it. Didn't see the film when it toured the country.

That's a great site you linked.

[emma_jane]

84. I have a feeling you can get the film through...

Indymedia. I think that's how the people I know got hold of it.

Just searched. It's here:

https://www3.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/08/296442.html

[Judi Lynn]

85. Good news. Looks like a good possibility. Will check it out.

Welcome to D.U.! :hi: :hi:

[anarchy1999]

79. Can we just please contain the "Bush" family Enterprise and the

Iran/Contra criminals. What is it going to take?

[Robeson]

Hypocrisy at its best......

...our government official can say with a straight fact, “He's picking on the countries whose social fabric is the weakest,” !!

I've got three words: Pot, Kettle, Black.

[Redstone]

82. Venezuela? Now he's picking on Venezuela?

Is there a country left that he HASN'T threatened?

Who's next? Mali? Paraguay? Bhutan? How about them Pitcairn Islanders? We better keep an eye on them!

Redstone

[anarchy1999]

83. You missed one, Costa Rica.

n/t

on edit:

Not many have heard of this one.

Fruit of the Poison Tree

In a Dallas court, Costa Rican banana workers claim a banned pesticide left them sterile
BY RICK KENNEDY

[e-mail]

For banana growers, the pesticide DBCP seemed like a godsend when it came on the market in the 1960s. The chemical has no equal for killing parasites that can devastate a banana crop. But DBCP proved to be uniquely effective for another purpose as well: sterilizing the men who worked with it.
Carlos Sosa knows all about DBCP's horrible side effect. Back in the 1970s, the thought that the foul-smelling mist he was injecting into the Costa Rican soil might be ravaging his reproductive glands never entered his mind. These days the thought seldom leaves it. His testicles have withered to a fraction of their normal size since his years working for American fruit giant Dole Food Company Inc., spraying the American-made chemical on bananas destined for American grocery stores.

It seems only fair that now he is looking to America for justice. To America or, more specifically, to a Dallas County jury that, starting next week, will determine just how much Dole should pay for allegedly emasculating Sosa and hundreds of his co-workers--or if the company should pay at all.

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/current/news/feature.html

I had no idea, I just know I will only purchase "organic" bananas from Whole Foods. Maybe I should not trust even them.

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87. FT says Chávez financed Carlos Mesa's resignation

FT says Chávez financed Carlos Mesa's resignation: Do they recruit journalists from CIA job fairs?

On March 13 they ran UK correspondent Andy Webb-Vidal’s flaccid piece of “reporting” titled “Bush Orders Policy to “Contain” Chávez.” With a headline like that, the blatant inaccuracies and vague allegations it contained should have come as no surprise, particularly when viewed along with Webb-Vidal’s new location, oligarch central – that is to say, Miami....

The most shocking claim is about Bolivia:0
“US officials say Mr Chávez financed Evo Morales, the Bolivian indigenous leader whose followers last week unsuccessfully tried to force President Carlos Mesa's resignation.”

This is perhaps the most inaccurate representation of what’s going down in Bolivia this month that I have read. Who are these US officials, and how do I file a complaint against them? Maybe they should have read Mesa’s resignation speech, or read his various threats to resign over recent months. They definitely should have read Luis Gomez’s excellent reporting here in the Narcosphere in which leaders of the social movements state that they never asked that Mesa resign, just that he keep his word. But the responsibility doesn’t lie with nameless “US officials.” Andy Webb-Vidal, and his editors at the Financial Times are the guilty parties here.

The main source he cites – in fact, the only source with a name – is Mr. Roger Pardo-Maurer, deputy assistant secretary for western hemisphere affairs at the US Department of Defense. What? Webb-Vidal should know better – he has previously filed various reports - real ones, not like this - from Caracas and Bogotá. It isn’t like he used to get his information exclusively from the Pentagon and, perhaps, Florida International University.Reading the quotes from Pardo-Maurer, I can’t help but wonder if part of the Bush administration policy is based on the assumption that most gringos are afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder and that none of us will notice what they’re doing because we can’t remember what they’ve done.

rest of the article
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2005/3/15/123514/213

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89. Yes

>>FT says Chávez financed Carlos Mesa's resignation: Do they recruit journalists from CIA job fairs?<<

Actually, yes they do. There's a long history of CIA and other agencies infiltrating and bribing the corporate media, the corporate big shots are game anyway and there's tons of corrupt journo whores who like to play spooks so they can feel important.

In a word, these propaganda campaigns are managed from the top.