Lynndie England to Plead Guilty in Abu Ghraib Case

[CountAllVotes]

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A female U.S. reservist soldier who posed before naked Iraqi detainees as they were abused at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison will plead guilty to seven of nine charges against her, her lawyer said on Friday.

Lynndie England, 22, became the face of the Iraq prisoner abuse scandal after photos of her posing before humiliated Iraqi prisoners were published last year. One showed her holding a naked Iraqi detainee on a leash.

She will agree on Monday at Fort Hood, Texas to a plea deal that could bring a maximum sentence of 11 years, her lawyer Capt. Jonathan Crisp told Reuters. He called her a pawn in the affair.

"Justice is being done based on the evidence that has been brought forward at this point," he said by telephone from Fort Hood where he met with prosecutors on Friday.

"The government has certainly been more amenable as of late than they were initially. I think they recognize her ultimate role in this is not what it was initially thought to be. She was a pawn."

more ...


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20050430/ts_nm/abuse_iraq_dc


a pawwwnnnnn ... uh huh, that's right, I agree but what about the rest of these thugs that got off the hook with no apparent price to pay (Sanchez for example!).

:dem:

[ogradda]

1. A pawn with a smile on her face

and glee in her tiny black heart.

[CountAllVotes]

2. yeah pure evil IMO

I never felt sorry for Lynndie one little bit myself.

Maybe she is a pawn, yes, and no, I don't like her one bit. However, I'd still like to see some heads roll at the top! :grr:

:kick:

[lies and propaganda]

3. but what about the chessmasters...

with no fucking hearts at all?

[ogradda]

4. I agree she should have company.

Yes indeedy.

[MuseRider]

5. I do not buy the pawn stuff.

Never, under any circumstance could anyone make or order me to act that way with that kind of smile on my face. Never would I ever do that and I wager 90% of you at the very least would be the same way. Anyone growing to the age she is knows the difference between the right and wrong way to treat anyone, even prisioners. Yes, war is hell but still, she looked far too happy to be a pawn in this.

[Frederik]

17. She's guilty all right

but it wasn't her idea to start abusing prisoners all by herself. Contractors like Titan and CACI, working for military intelligence, encouraged military police to abuse the prisoners in certain ways, according to some witness testimonies. It's clever to use contractors to do these things thus avoiding accountability, isn't it.

"According to the Army report: Stephanowicz, a CACI interrogator, "made a false statement to the investigation team regarding the locations of his interrogations, the activities during his interrogations, and his knowledge of abuses." Further, investigators found, Stephanowicz encouraged Military Police to terrorize inmates, and "clearly knew his instructions equated to physical abuse." "

(CorpWatchMay 7th, 2004)

[entanglement]

24. I don't know why so many people

are pushing the 'pawn' theory. Are they calling the men involved in the scandal 'pawns' as well? I'm sure not.

[QC]

33. Maybe because we have the good sense to know that England did not

cook up all this by herself. Does that mean she's innocent? Of course not. But people far more responsible for this mess are being rewarded for their crimes while we hiss and boo at her.

[stillcool]

6. When will we hear the rest of the story....

Supposedly there is far worse material on the horizon. Thank God Rummy took their video/cell phones away!

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. England to Plead Guilty to Prisoner Abuse

April 29, 2005

SAN ANTONIO - Pfc. Lynndie England will plead guilty to abusing Iraqi detainees in Abu Ghraib prison, her lawyer said late Friday, months after photos of her sexually humiliating inmates made her the face of a scandal that damaged the credibility of the U.S. military.

England will plead guilty in a military court Monday to seven of the nine counts against her: two counts of conspiracy, four counts of maltreating prisoners and one count of dereliction of duty, said Rick Hernandez, her civilian lawyer.

England, a 22-year-old Army reservist who was a clerk at the Baghdad-area prison, was scheduled to go to trial Tuesday at Fort Hood.

Hernandez said the plea deal was reached Friday afternoon during a meeting with military prosecutors at Fort Hood.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050430/ap_on_re_us/prisoner_abuse_england;_ylt=A9FJqZmK.XJCY8kAawGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2MTQ3MTFjBHNlYwN0cw--

[Erika]

8. This was just posted.

[Up2Late]

9. "Leash Lady" to Plead Guilty of Iraq Abuses (Reuters)

(I know this is a "tired" subject, but it was such a weird headline (by Reuters standards) I had to post it.)

'Leash Lady' to Plead Guilty of Iraq Abuses

Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:01 PM ET

By Adam Tanner

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Lynndie England, the U.S. soldier pictured holding a naked Iraqi detainee on a leash in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal that damaged U.S. credibility around the world, will plead guilty next week to most charges against her, her lawyer said on Friday. The 22-year-old reservist became the face of the Iraq abuse scandal after the leash picture and others showing her posing before humiliated Iraqi prisoners were published last year, but the lawyer said she was just a pawn in the affair.

She will plead guilty to seven of nine charges on Monday before a Fort Hood, Texas military court in a deal that could bring a maximum sentence of 11 years, the lawyer, Capt. Jonathan Crisp, told Reuters. "Justice is being done based on the evidence that has been brought forward at this point," he said by telephone from Fort Hood where he met with prosecutors on Friday. He said the prosecutors had become increasingly amenable to her case. "I think they recognize her ultimate role in this is not what it was initially thought to be. She was a pawn."

The Abu Ghraib photos, many of which were taken on a single night in November 2003, shocked the world and badly damaged America's reputation in a world already skeptical about the U.S.-led invasion earlier that year.

(more at link above)

[Erika]

10. She's repaying W for the rhinestones in her leash

She got caught. He didn't like that.

[Maat]

11. I think that they are giving her a plea-bargain ...

to shut her up? I bet there are many interesting conditions in her plea. Maybe who was present at certain times at the facility. I have heard of higher-ranking officers being there, and telling staff not to say anything about their presence. What if she knows alot and they don't want her to tell?

Just thinking ....

[saigon68]

14. THE plea bargain to prevent the rest of this SHIT from getting OUT

Many members of Congress left the 45-minute viewing session early, thereby missing the porno performance by England, but there were enough other images of torture, humiliation and intimidation to sicken anyone.

***

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/006126.html

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) described the images as "more detailed and more graphic than the pictures that have been released publicly," referring to the disturbing photos of Iraqis being abused at Abu Ghraib prison that surfaced two weeks ago, and which Islamic terrorists claim led to this week's revenge beheading of American Nick Berg.

"Normally, I side with disclosure and openness, but in this case, these photos are evidence," Schumer said, indicating that he favors keeping the lid on the alarming pictures, as Vice President Dick Cheney and Sen. John Warner (R-Va.) have urged.

[mitchum]

22. You are absolutely correct

[Voltaire99]

12. "A history of severe mental defects."

England's plea deal means the drama of her trial next week will come at the penalty phase in which her attorneys will argue that England suffered mental health problems. "What you're going to hear about is a history of severe mental deficits," Crisp said.

"If the leash-loving bitch is lacking wit, you must acquit."

[saigon68]

13. ONE MORE TIME TO ROUSE YOUR MEMORY

[Voltaire99]

26. I'll never forget that image.

Nor should any American: it should be painted on the side of the White House as a constant reminder and reproach.

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. So what's happened to her newborn?

was she allowed to keep the baby or has she been forced to give it up? She does not sound like someone who would be a fit mother.

[scarlett1]

27. I think the father of her baby is doing 10 years for his part in this

will they terminate parental rights on both and put the baby up for adoption?.

[scarlett1]

28. Mental health problems?

And she is suppose to be "protecting Our Country". Good God

[NYC]

32. Lack of oxygen at birth.

I saw it walking home from the theater tonight on one of those Broadway news zippers.

Her lawyers will request lenient sentencing because L. England suffered lack of oxygen at birth.

[Laughing Mirror]

16. Sanchez, Rumsfeld, CIA et al

The real ones responsible for this get off scott-free, "responsible" but not guilty, therefore no charges.

[catnhatnh]

18. Let me get this straight....

....the United States Military engages in an across the board, covert strategy of physically abusing, sexually and religiously humiliating, and terrorizing "terror suspects" and the grand daddy of ALL punishments (11YEARS) lands squarely on the back of a clueless young Red State bimbo-who I might add was ranked a "specialist" (not even a real NCO)-...You might find her repugnant (I do),but if you don't find this hunt for rankless scapegoats MORE repugnant then you are buying a load of Republican Bullshit!

[Laughing Mirror]

19. Thank You!!

You do have this straight.

Well spoken!

[Up2Late]

21. O.K., you bring up a question I have had for a while.

What is a "specialist" and where do they fall in the ranks?

Also, what is a "Warrant Officer" or a "Chief Warrant Officer?" Where do they fall in the ranks? For example, back in 2003, when one of the Apache Gunships was shot down, this is what was written of them:

CAPTURED:

-- Army Chief Warrant Officer 2 Ronald D. Young Jr., 26, from Lithia Springs, Ga.; Chief Warrant Officer 2 David S. Williams, 30, from Orlando, Fla. Pilots of Apache helicopter downed after not returning from mission March 23. Shown in Iraqi state television March 24, apparently uninjured.

What's the deal, wouldn't Captain's or Lieutenant's usually fly these?:shrug:

[catnhatnh]

30. The army rank system has two tiers...

....enlisted (E1 thru E10) and officers (O1 thru O10)...these are also pay grades...at rank/pay grade E4 thru E7 or 8 there are two skill groups recognized to be of equal value-specialists with specialized skills such as say, avionics repair or computer operations and then the true NCO ranks of corporal, seargeant, staff seargeant, etc. whom are given leadership positions and control of troops...In the officer ranks at the positions of pay grades O1 thru O4 which correspond with ranks 2nd Lt., Lt., Captain and Major, the army recognized the need for "Warrant Officers" -soldiers performing jobs that normally would WARRANT an officer-ie. flying helicopters, because an enlisted rank would not allow him to command those serving aboard or sevicing his aircraft.As an enlisted man I found the WOs to be great folks whom of course every 2nd Lt. scorned as not being "real" officers and (ahem) gentlemen...

[realFedUp]

20. This is so shameful...that our "leaders" aren't taking blame

besides hating Bush Inc. for its lies, international
crimes and largesse to corporations and their owners
over the good of America, avoiding the blame for
the endorsed torture and deaths of Iraqis, and
placing the blame on the grunts is really beyond
human and certainly not Christian.
I hope they get eternal life in hell.

[entanglement]

23. I guess she should be happy

she got away with just 11 years for her inhuman actions and won't have a beast like herself as her jailer.

[catnhatnh]

31. If you would like to put some money on that....

...(she won't have a beast like herself as her jailer) I'll cover.I've been in a military stockade and MANY MPs enjoy their jobs WAY to much, if you catch my drift....

[Robworld]

25. Were living in the era of no accountability

If Rumsfeld was found accountable to Abu Ghraib it would then lead back to the administration at fault. this would show that system is weak and corrupt. The Bush Administration cant have any of that. This is now considered by the main stream media as Internet conspiracy. The administration will tell you that Lynndie England and her fellow soldiers were just a bad apple and the whole torture scandal can be tossed down the memory hole.

http://www.dumdumgoestothecircus.com/

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