Captives: Terrorists hoped for Bush re-election

[sabra]

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1119925651865

Captives: Terrorists hoped for Bush re-election
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

LONDON

Two French journalists who were held hostage in Iraq told a British documentary program that their captors believed George W. Bush's re-election as US president would help radicalize Iraqis.

Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot, who were seized in August and released after four months, told the British Broadcasting Corp.'s "Panorama" program that they were allowed to interview the leader of an Islamic militant cell within the group that seized them.

"We felt we were on planet bin Laden," Malbrunot said on the program, which airs Wednesday night.

The cell leader trained with terror leader Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and told them the insurgents supported a Bush presidency because they believed it meant that "there will be confrontation, occupation and radicalization of the Iraqi people," Malbrunot said.

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[DoYouEverWonder]

1. Gee, I thought bin Laden

was a DEM?

[scdusek]

30. Who is this bin Laden character you speak of???

[blm]

2. The US media knew about this last year and wouldn't report it.

They also knew that Bin Laden had permission from the Islamic spiritual leaders to use a nuclear weapon on the United States if the American people put Bush back in office. Until then, Bin Laden couldn't get any sanctioning from them because they blamed Bush more than the American people.

I hope they know that the American people did NOT vote Bush into office, but, his fascist cronies who own the voting machines did.

[Lilith Velkor]

12. Whoa

>They also knew that Bin Laden had permission from the Islamic spiritual leaders to use a nuclear weapon on the United States if the American people put Bush back in office. Until then, Bin Laden couldn't get any sanctioning from them because they blamed Bush more than the American people.<

Where did you read that? I'd certainly like to bitchslap a few rightwing fools with that one...

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. I didn't hear it was linked to the election

but it does seem to have been linked to the invasion of Iraq. And it was only publicised after the presidential election:

Nov. 14, 2004

After Sept. 11, Scheuer says bin Laden was criticized by Muslim clerics for launching such a serious attack without sufficient warning. That has now been given. And he says bin Laden has even obtained a fatwa, or Islamic decree, justifying a nuclear attack against the United States on religious grounds.

"He secured from a Saudi sheik named Hamid bin Fahd a rather long treatise on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Americans. Specifically, nuclear weapons," says Scheuer. "And the treatise found that he was perfectly within his rights to use them. Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world, so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans."

Scheuer says the fatwa was issued in May 2003, "and that's another thing that doesn't come to the attention of the American people."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/12/60minutes/main655407.shtml

[blm]

25. I heard from Scheuer on one of the news shows he was on that Bin Laden

was sanctioned to attack the US with nuclear material IF the American people put Bush back in office.

I felt the media did an ENORMOUS disservice to the citizens of this country when they refused to report this, even though they knew about it for almost 2 years prior to the elction.

[Lilith Velkor]

37. Treason. Nice.

"Your enemy is not invading you, your enemy is ruling you" - Where have I heard that recently? Hmmm :think:

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[dissent1977]

33. I hope that is sarcasm

[DeepModem Mom]

3. This is an AP report -- I have a feeling it's legit. Thanks for posting.

[sabra]

4. thanks. This is scary stuff! Will the people finally wake up?

[Javaman]

5. Ergo: Iraq is not recruiting terrorists, moron* is.

A stinking pile of a president*

[Shredr]

6. I'm not surprised.

I'm actually kind of sad. We fought against the re-election. We knew the terrorists wanted Bush re-elected. They spun it and now look...

[Miss Chybil]

7. That's why we're fighting them there, so we don't have to fight them here.

Does that statement give anybody else the creeps? How can they say that? Like they're absolutely positive they will never strike here again? I hope to God they're right, but seeing as how they've not been right once in the last five years, it scares me.

[ima_sinnic]

16. if they want to strike here, they will

--and the way the mass of "terrorists" is growing as a result of the Iraqi breeding ground, it seems inevitable that an attack of some sort will happen here. Especially in consideration of the fact that our military AND our National Guard are preoccupied to the max away from our borders, budgets for first responders and local security have been cut, and the people are completely preoccupied with TV pablum and materialism and living under a false sense of security that "we're fighting them over there." There is really nothing stopping "terrorists" from doing what they have already done twice: blow up major buildings. But I suspect it's too much fun watching "the jackals from the West" shoot themselves in the foot on the terrorists' turf while their numbers (the terrorists) go through the roof.

[The White Tree]

28. The irony of this is that the converse of this statement is...

actually equally true for the terrorists in Iraq. They are fighting us there rather then go through the trouble of ttrying to fight us here.

And for many of the insurgence it is likely that:

They are fighting us there, because we are fighting them there and never had any intention of fighting us here until we started fighting them there.

which leads to the logical conclusion that:

When we stop fighting them there, many of them will start fighting us here, therefore we can never stop fighting them there unless we wan't to start fighting them here, which we don't.

To paraphrae The Princess Bride - Truly Bush has a dizzying intellect.

To which he would naturally replay - Wait till I get going.

Peace.

[sabra]

35. well said :-)

[gulliver]

8. Bin Laden himself released a video to help Bush.

There is no better friend to America's enemies (and competitors) than Bush.

[CJCRANE]

15. The way the video was SPUN

and the timing of the release of the video is what helped Bush.
The MSM didn't report most of what Bin Laden actually said in the tape. If they did it would have been very different.

For instance, he basically implied that Bush was doing the terrorists job for them by destroying the American economy and sending American soldiers into harm's way in Iraq. He also implied that Kerry (if he became president) would reduce support for the terrorists by using diplomacy (which Bin Laden obviously didn't like).

[WePurrsevere]

22. I remember hearing about this...

when only snippits were shown on the Corp media I told DH it would push more to vote for Bush since it was made to look like Osama was afraid of him. When I heard the whole thing I knew for sure it was being spun to do just that.

[DinahMoeHum]

24. Bush is bin Laden's useful idiot. . .and the dumb chimp

doesn't realize it.

Pathetic.

:grr:

[burrowowl]

9. Of course! Bu$hCo

gives them more reasons to hate the U$!
So what else is surprising!?!?
The idiocy of the voting public plus those damn voting machines and who is behind it? Fascist/Corporatism! Simple!

[Borgnine]

10. Indeed.

The far-right Republicans in power and their sound machine are just a different shade of the same terrorists were supposedly at perpetual war with. In my mind, they're the same threat.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

44. Not Really.

The terrorist regime we live under is more sophisticated.

[NVMojo]

11. Why wasn't this type of story around before the election??

Fuck....

[Lilith Velkor]

13. Another for the "No Shit!" files n/t

[oxbow]

14. Lets get someone in the MSM to report this.

KO maybe?

[e-mail]

[Patiod]

17. People looked at me like I was crazy when I said this in '04

There were (few and far between) reports last summer that terrorist "chatter" on the internets suggested that they were hoping for a Bush victory because they feared Kerry would look "too reasonable" to the non-radicalized Islamic world, and they knew Bush would provide just the invasive, occupying demon they wanted the world to see.

But if you mentioned this to people, they looked at you like you were crazy -- the mainstream meme was that of course the terrorists wanted "soft on terror Kerry" to win.

[Robeson]

34. Yep. I remember telling Repugs I knew that the terrorist would much...

...rather have Bush. And as you said, they would just look at me with that blank dumb stare that all Repugs are neverendingly famous for.

[Stuckinthebush]

19. Just one more thing in the long list

of realizations that were predicted by DUers.

Damn we're good. I just wish people would have listened to us.

[truthisfreedom]

20. *yawn* we WROTE THIS STUFF YEARS AGO.

[saigon68]

39. Yes we did right here

The people were warned. They chose a Criminal family of thugs and hoodlums to vote for.

[tallahasseedem]

21. We should print this out and

put it on those cars that have that ridiculous bumper sticker that reads "10 out of 10 terrorists agree, anybody but Bush".

[melissinha]

23. Its elementary logic

The person I fear the most in all of this world is George W. Bush.... not Osama Bin Laden or any convicted killer. George Bush and his renegade policies have really helped provoke the war against this country with his simplistic "we bring freedom" propaganda. That is why Democrats DESPERATELY tried to beat him and need to continue to do so. It is only in his disgrace at our hands can we restore the good name of this country.

I also believe that Osama waited for him to be elected before he attacked us. So indirectly the moral values zombie brigade has the blood of thousands of people on their hands.

[MetaTrope]

26. Don't you fear Michael Jackson more?

:banghead:

[chughes1614]

27. No surprise there n/t

[redqueen]

29. Hi chughes1614...

welcome to DU! :hi:

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[saigon68]

40. ADIOS

[BikePunk]

36. They are French...

ergo.. they are evil, and against us, and hate freedom.

Why should we trust them... :+



:sarcasm:

[liberalitch]

38. The BBC has many documentaries that Americans should see...

I read a peter bergen article about one called The Power of Nightmares
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm

[jurassicpork]

41. This is rich

I'd always suspected the bin Laden gang was actually pulling for Bush. Kinda makes me think of a bumper sticker I saw last week here in Massachusetts. On the bumper of this big-ass Ford pickup (of course) I see two stickers. One said, "10 out of 10 Terrorists Agree: Anyone But Bush!"

Then I thought to myself, "Obviously, two of those ten terrorists don't include bin laden and al Zarqawi."

http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com

[Lori Price CLG]

42. Captives: Terrorists hoped for Bush re-election

Captives: Terrorists hoped for Bush re-election

Two French journalists who were held hostage in Iraq told a British documentary program that their captors believed George W. Bush's re-(s)election as US president would help radicalize Iraqis.

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Lori Price

[mike_c]

43. well, he's a uniter, after all....

:puke: