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Thom Little (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:49 AM Original message |
Atheist group wants memorial crosses removed |
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JuniorPlankton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. It must be hard being a Utah director of American Atheists |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. I thought the cross predated Christianity as a grave marker...eom |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. The cross predates Christianity as an instrument of violent torture... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. At least you Lutherans don't have a bloody body hanging on yours. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
137. Lutherans treat the death and resurrection equally |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
165. In same light... why would they want to mark the spots that troopers died? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. I bet they already have memorial plaque at their district or state hdqtrs |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
164. Must be where those troopers are buried then... right? |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Let the troopers families decide. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. On public land? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Why> If it is indexed to the families and not to the state |
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kay1864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. ITA! |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
162. You are so right. |
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Kixel (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. That is... |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. agree wholeheartedly! Lets choose our battles more wisely |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. "Stupid, alienating lawsuits" |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Oh fucking give it up |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Sorry, I won't. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. If they have no claim, then yes |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Let's let the courts decide whether the atheists have a claim, eh? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I can certainly make an argument that they have no claim |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. How is this a free speech issue? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
134. You can try to make that argument, |
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LetsGoMurphys (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
125. you are comparing this to Brown vs. Board? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. Are you saying that some civil rights |
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LetsGoMurphys (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. i think equal education is much more important than some |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. You never know. |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
77. I agree |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
142. I agree, too. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. How about public cemeteries? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Are the troopers buried in the spot where they were killed? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Neither are vets. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Exactly the point, genius. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. In PUBLIC cemetaries, and your objection was use of public land. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:19 PM Original message |
Geez and I thought you might just understand this. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
46. My, the more wrong you are, the more hostile you get. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
78. Does the cosmic beef come with gravy and mashed potatoes? |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Lol! I think the beef is chipped! |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. From all observations, the side is self righteousness and hypocrisy. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. If you're serving, then no doubt! n/t |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Just observing. You and your cosmic beef. Same menu, every day. nt |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Naw, I don't even acknowledge that cosmic beef exists. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. *yawn* nt |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Oh, come now. You can do better than that. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Dang! |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Actually, the "whatever" only comes when |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Woohoo! |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. No, your position had do with public land, and then you flipped, |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:25 PM Original message |
Oh, you really DON'T understand. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
110. If it's not a distinction made in the constitution, then |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. The distinction between public land and public cemeteries is not there, |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. A bit wordy. And based on false assumptions. But I'll certainly... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. The assumption was that only your opinion is allowed. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Um, riiiiiight. Back to the "I'm-rubber-you're-glue" thing. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Whatever! |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Double-whatever! |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Kumbaya, my _____, Kumbaya! |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Better than the self-contradiction of a single believer, I suppose. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. *yawn* |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
133. Oops, I stand corrected! Cosmic beef does indeed exist! |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
143. I hate this Arlington bullshit |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
159. The public lands don't belong to just you. |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
7. The American Atheists organization shoots itself in the foot... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. They're actually doing a favor to ALL religions. |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I'm an atheist. I defend the separation of church and state. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. If you say so. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. As a Christian |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
101. how about markers shaped like pie? |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #101 |
126. ummmmm pie |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #126 |
154. mmmm might have to make one today nt |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 05:24 AM Response to Reply #101 |
149. everybody loves pie |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. lol great blog! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. With a bazooka |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
144. Of course you are only talking about the free exercise clause |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. I'm sorry, but sometimes it goes a little too far. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. This is a time it's gone WAY too far. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 04:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
148. I agree |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
10. not an endorsement of religion? Ask Dave Tabish. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It's not an endorsement, even if a christian says it is. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Substitute any other religious symbol |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Yeah, they are the other side of the coin. Still no endorsement. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. How nice of you to disregard the separation of church and state |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. There isn't any church and state issue here, and nothing to disregard |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Why would their opinion matter? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Because that's who they want to pick a fight with, and vice versa. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
67. When a State Trooper related to you dies on the road.... |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Your logic is irrefutable. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Normally I'd agree |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
14. Bullshit... |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
18. This is going too far. Let people mourn as they will. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. mourning on the side of a highway? you might want to rethink that. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Let them mourn in private. I don't need to be dragged into their nightmare |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I misread this or rather didn't read this. |
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SkiGuy (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
138. you poor, poor, victimized atheists |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #138 |
156. Spare me your sanctimony. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
19. 12 feet high is a bit much. what do they put up for an atheist cop? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Exactly. |
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devinsgram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
151. I agree, a twelve foot high cross is a bit much. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. I'm opposed to all roadside "memorials." Why not just put up billboards... |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
95. They have great meaning for the families that have lost a loved one |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. So do gravemarkers in cemetaries. - n/t |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
161. When I see a roadside memorial |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
35. Either idiots or RW plants. |
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liberaliraqvet26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
38. This is stupid... |
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FarrenH (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
45. Another long term atheist here |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Excellent post...welcome to DU (nt) |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
50. I think roadside memorials in general are a bad idea - and they often |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
52. This is just stupid and wrong |
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Jersey Ginny (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
150. Next, pro choice advocate for abortion to choose sex of babies! |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. Great example Ginny! |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. And once again, it's the atheists who are big meanies... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. It's not about separation of church and state. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Um, your declaring "there are no separation issues" ... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. It is so whether I declare it or not. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. What is this? "I know you are but what am I" ??? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I assert same rights as you, and you get miffed. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. No, I'm "miffed" at your audacity in presuming to tell me... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Yeah, the law. How presumptuous to apply it to you. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Please, do tell me all about how a citizen has no right to seek redress... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Your presumption being that there is a violation to be redressed. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. So you've judged the case already? What bench do you sit on? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Yes, I've judged the case already. Did I need your permission? |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Yes, yes, my culture war. my indignation, blah blah blah. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Yes, yes, your culture war, your indignation, now your playing a victim. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. Um, you really ought to read your own posts more carefully. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. A something being a presumption of a violation |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Hahaha! That's what makes this all so fun, really. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion... |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
55. Why |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
56. As a devout atheist, I think that if the families want a cross to mark |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I wish they would put a marker over the deceased's gravesite. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I don't know. Might be entertaining to see all kinds of little faux |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
128. It would be fun |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
81. Twelve feet high? Why not a fifty foot high monument |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Nah!! 1,000 foot tall crosses lining the highway! That would do it. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
105. LOL! Maybe we got it wrong, do ya think? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. LOL! That would be TOO much! Orange sunshine, 1000 foot crosses, |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. God! I'm having one now. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
116. What's a "DEVOUT atheist?" |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. Yes, I am pious and I pray to the God of all atheists all day long!LOL. |
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Righteous9 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. Are all the fallen officers christian? |
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alkaline9 (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
65. while the crosses may not bother me, there is an issue here... |
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alkaline9 (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. actually, I'll go one better... |
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Dances with Cats (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
68. See, this is just so God damn self defeating.... |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
71. wait-- on second thought - I think we need more info |
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alkaline9 (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I was thinking the same... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. What if they are 30' tall crosses? I think some sort of height |
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alkaline9 (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. now you're just being silly, anything over 28.5' is ridiculous lol |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
97. In UTAH yet of all places lol! n/t |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
115. I'm not a Christian... |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
117. These athiests are morons |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #117 |
124. There ya go! Someone who disagrees with you is a moron. Must be |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #117 |
145. You spelled that wrong...it's "morans" |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #117 |
152. They really did pick a dud of an issue here, didn't they? |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
121. I can hear O'Leilly now |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #121 |
147. Oh, fuck, I never thought of that |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
122. useless noise. |
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LetsGoMurphys (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
127. Such lawsuits are making our side look like just |
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jahyarain (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
131. i just...i mean... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #131 |
146. You need to get out more, then |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
135. Utah only allows 3 types of road side memorials |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
136. Mormons' don't typically display the cross in their religion |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. That seemed strange to me too |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
139. THAT'S how you get white conservatives to vote Democratic!!! |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
141. Great idea, let's decorate our highways with 12 foot tall instruments of |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
157. When my city started doing reminders of traffic deaths |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:05 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. I like that way better n/t |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
158. Not a smart move |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
167. locking |
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